Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
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Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
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Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#2https://atproto.com/guides/applications#record-types
So if I'm a social media platform that implements this protocol, am I restricted to supporting only the activities that Bluesky supports? Like if I wanted to have a network that distinguishes people I follow from people who I personally know, am I just out of luck because protocol doesn't support that distinction? And if I do create that distinction, what is its meaning when a user decides to migrate that data elsewhere?
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#3I think there are two interesting sides to this here: First is that essentially a key part of this strategy is ideological, not pragmatic. Centralization came out of pragmatism, not ideology. It seems hard for me to believe that deliberately choosing the less efficient solution is a good idea for a start up.
The second is that we seem to be seeing a lot of VC brain here. By that I mean, I can scream at a VC "OMG THERE'S A TRUCK COMING AT YOU AT 100MPH" and the VC will respond "Well what we need to do is look at how the concept of a truck is cha-" before becoming a fine pink mist. I'm not impressed by people who can't answer basic questions about their product. I know Jack will hate to actually address this, but: how do you balance speech, censorship and moderation? I get we can wax lyrical about freedom of speech, but how are you actually going to address thousands of people shouting the N word at your users? And if your answer is "It's decentralized, it's down to X,Y,X people" then I have to point out, you've just outsourced the most difficult differentiator of a social media startup.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#4So he created a Mastodon clone?
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#5I think there are two interesting sides to this here: First is that essentially a key part of this strategy is ideological, not pragmatic. Centralization came out of pragmatism, not ideology. It seems hard for me to believe that deliberately choosing the less efficient solution is a good idea for a start up. The second is that we seem to be seeing a lot of VC brain here. By that I mean, I can scream at a VC "OMG THER…
If the speech is illegal in whatever jurisdictions apply, then remove it; otherwise, it should stay. Yes, even trolling and slurs. If a platform emulating the public square goes beyond what is legal, it ceases to be a neutral platform and inevitably becomes a vehicle for propaganda. I realize that means propaganda could be spread by the users, but I'd rather than than the platform and users spreading it.
The real question here is defining "public square" legally.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#6now hire back the twitter moderation team, and you’ve effectively recapitulated the freenode/libera hard fork of 2021!
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#7No thanks. I'm done with Jack and I'm done with Elon. Mastodon is great and it's already starting to feel like home.
Don't need anymore drama from these reckless people.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#8(EDIT: No it's not) This is the scuttlebutt protocol to anyone wondering. First mentioned on HN many years ago.
I'm very into this stuff. I was into scuttlebutt long before bluesky was announced even.
But the problem I see is that with ActivityPub I already have a whole ecosystem of software and libraries, while with ssbc I have no idea where to even start. When ssbc was first announced I tried using it briefly but it was very basic, I hope they've come further.
With the fediverse I can literally jump straight into a container and have an instance running within minutes.
Is there an equivalent to activitypub.rocks for sscb?
https://ssbc.github.io/scuttlebutt-protocol-guide/ maybe this guide.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#9I think there are two interesting sides to this here: First is that essentially a key part of this strategy is ideological, not pragmatic. Centralization came out of pragmatism, not ideology. It seems hard for me to believe that deliberately choosing the less efficient solution is a good idea for a start up. The second is that we seem to be seeing a lot of VC brain here. By that I mean, I can scream at a VC "OMG THER…
If the speech is illegal in whatever jurisdictions apply, then remove it; otherwise, it should stay. Yes, even trolling and slurs. If a platform emulating the public square goes beyond what is legal, it ceases to be a neutral platform and inevitably becomes a vehicle for propaganda. I realize that means propaganda could be spread by the users, but I'd rather than than the platform and users spreading it. The real que…
Spam is 100% legal in all jurisdictions, so your legal free speech plan sounds like a total hellscape.
Re: Jack Dorsey Unveils Bluesky Social, the Decentralized Twitter
#10now hire back the twitter moderation team, and you’ve effectively recapitulated the freenode/libera hard fork of 2021!
Oh lord I just made that parallel between the kid who took over freenode and Elon the other day. Both spoiled brats.
The two situations are actually very similar, even down to the crowd that took over freenode when everyone sane left for libera.