EU approves effective ban on new combustion engine cars from 2035
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Re: EU approves effective ban on new combustion engine cars from 2035
#2> There is also a non-binding proposal in the agreement to allow the manufacture of vehicles “running exclusively on CO2-neutral fuels” (also known as “e-fuels”) beyond 2035 if these vehicles fall “outside the scope of the fleet standards.” [...] “outside the scope of the fleet standards” suggests that only speciality vehicles, like ambulances and fire engines, will be able to take advantage of this carve-out.
Re: EU approves effective ban on new combustion engine cars from 2035
#3Wonderful news. I live in a European city, so i dont have a need to own a car, but i use my bicyle to get around town (all year). The city i live in has great air quality, and i generally avoid big car streets, but as soon as i get close to a larger road, or i get passed by a car (often hurrying to get to a red light further down the road) you really start to feel the exhaust. Inhaling and tasting car exhausts is terrible, and i think many car drivers dont think about this, as they are protected in their air conditioned box.
Re: EU approves effective ban on new combustion engine cars from 2035
#4Wonderful news. I live in a European city, so i dont have a need to own a car, but i use my bicyle to get around town (all year). The city i live in has great air quality, and i generally avoid big car streets, but as soon as i get close to a larger road, or i get passed by a car (often hurrying to get to a red light further down the road) you really start to feel the exhaust. Inhaling and tasting car exhausts is ter…
If your city and place of living has a good public transport system that’s feasible. The reality in countries like Spain is that once you live somewhere outside of the center the public transportation essentially sucks.
That said this will only speed up electric vehicles but with these prices I don’t see how many people are gonna afford them.
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#5I can see these kinds of bans working in the EU where car ownership isn't a necessity. However, in the US where cars are often the ONLY means of transportation, I imagine they will go down like a lead filled balloon. How many barely running gas cars are the only thing letting poorer Americans make it to work and school? I really wish the US would work much harder on making car ownership unnecessary.
In the end though, I won't miss the stupid cars that go up and down my street farting at 120db for no freaking reason because the owner "Want car go vroom!"
Re: EU approves effective ban on new combustion engine cars from 2035
#6We've been a decade away from doing something for 40 years now...
Re: EU approves effective ban on new combustion engine cars from 2035
#7I can see these kinds of bans working in the EU where car ownership isn't a necessity. However, in the US where cars are often the ONLY means of transportation, I imagine they will go down like a lead filled balloon. How many barely running gas cars are the only thing letting poorer Americans make it to work and school? I really wish the US would work much harder on making car ownership unnecessary. In the end though…
This is 12 years from now. There will be plenty of used combustion vehicles for the less well off to acquire and use until EVs further decline in cost. These folks don’t have $40k-$50k (median sales price) to spend on a new car anyway.
Re: EU approves effective ban on new combustion engine cars from 2035
#8I can see these kinds of bans working in the EU where car ownership isn't a necessity. However, in the US where cars are often the ONLY means of transportation, I imagine they will go down like a lead filled balloon. How many barely running gas cars are the only thing letting poorer Americans make it to work and school? I really wish the US would work much harder on making car ownership unnecessary. In the end though…
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Re: EU approves effective ban on new combustion engine cars from 2035
#9does this affect motorcycles?
Re: EU approves effective ban on new combustion engine cars from 2035
#10I can see these kinds of bans working in the EU where car ownership isn't a necessity. However, in the US where cars are often the ONLY means of transportation, I imagine they will go down like a lead filled balloon. How many barely running gas cars are the only thing letting poorer Americans make it to work and school? I really wish the US would work much harder on making car ownership unnecessary. In the end though…
This is 12 years from now. There will be plenty of used combustion vehicles for the less well off to acquire and use until EVs further decline in cost. These folks don’t have $40k-$50k (median sales price) to spend on a new car anyway.
They'll push that target into the future once the power networks won't handle the load and the industry won't be able to obtain enough lithium and copper and sell the cars at a competitive price. The industy will reconvert the internal combustion engine to run on hydrogen and/or manufacture EVs with a small battery and a hydrogen power cell range extender. Renault already annonced fuel cell powered Kangoo and Master vans.
https://www.renaultgroup.com/en/news-on-air/news/kangoo-z-e-...