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Traces of ancient ocean discovered on Mars

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> The water which supplies the farms of Mars is collected in immense underground reservoirs at either pole from the melting ice caps, and pumped through long conduits to the various populated centers. Along either side of these conduits, and extending their entire length, lie the cultivated districts. These are divided into tracts of about the same size, each tract being under the supervision of one or more government officers.

> Instead of flooding the surface of the fields, and thus wasting immense quantities of water by evaporation, the precious liquid is carried underground through a vast network of small pipes directly to the roots of the vegetation. The crops upon Mars are always uniform, for there are no droughts, no rains, no high winds, and no insects, or destroying birds.

https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~rgs/pmars-XXI.html

Re: Traces of ancient ocean discovered on Mars

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We live in truly amazing times. In a few years NASA may succeed in sending probes from Mars to Earth and we may get evidence for past or current life on Mars.

In 10 or 15 years if Starship works out we may be able to send scientists to Mars.

I'm a fan of the hypothesis that life on Earth came from Mars - will be very interesting to see how it develops as we study Mars.

Re: Traces of ancient ocean discovered on Mars

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> The water which supplies the farms of Mars is collected in immense underground reservoirs at either pole from the melting ice caps, and pumped through long conduits to the various populated centers. Along either side of these conduits, and extending their entire length, lie the cultivated districts. These are divided into tracts of about the same size, each tract being under the supervision of one or more governmen…

  > The crops upon Mars are always uniform, for there are no droughts, no
  > rains, no high winds, and no insects, or destroying birds.
Presumably the are still seasons, cloud or dust storms, and wind. Possibly also variations in supplied nutrition and water pressure, maybe even water impurities and minerals. Radiation fluctuations might lead to crop variance as well.

Re: Traces of ancient ocean discovered on Mars

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Mars lost all of its (surface) water presumably due to solar wind, and thus never had time to evolve complex life. Earth would have faced the same fate were it not for the fact that the Moon collided with us at some distant point in time, surrendering its iron core to ours. Now, our Rare Earth has an unnaturally large active iron core, resulting in an unnaturally efficient magnetic field which is able to protect our waters from being blown away by Sun.

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Mars lost all of its (surface) water presumably due to solar wind, and thus never had time to evolve complex life. Earth would have faced the same fate were it not for the fact that the Moon collided with us at some distant point in time, surrendering its iron core to ours. Now, our Rare Earth has an unnaturally large active iron core, resulting in an unnaturally efficient magnetic field which is able to protect our…

One might be inclined to attribute the amount of good luck to devine intervention, but to this I would say: If the conditions on our planet would not have allowed for higher life, nobody would have been there to ask themselves why the conditions were slightly off.

Re: Traces of ancient ocean discovered on Mars

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It’s beyond obvious that water flew as rivers in Mars at some point, and looks like there’s some water there even now!

Even life, is there any reason to think there WASNT some microscopic life there at some point? I doubt anyone thinks there’s viable life there even now (though one can’t 100% exclude the possibility).

It’s like everyone kind of already knows these are the likely facts but we keep using these as scapegoat questions to fund more missions for rovers etc. Instead, wouldn’t it be better if we are honest to oursleves and find things we actually want to do? Like get some people there? Which again, more than the science is just about the accomplishment itself.

I’m genuinely curious about places like Europa. I’m not at all curious about digging more Martian dirt and doing increasingly insignificant geology on a dead planet.

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