The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
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Re: The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
#2After reading the entire thread I am still in the dark about what exactly the author wants to see changed.
The narrative that frameworks = bad and vanilla js = good falls apart quickly IMHO in medium to large sized projects since the complexity has to be abstracted in some way in order to reach a realistic timeframe for completion.
Re: The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
#3Ah, yes. Everyone’s favorite whipping boy: the front end developers. I don’t think the last decade was a mistake. React (and Preact and similar) are my favorite ways to build out UIs. I prefer it to every other thing I’ve tried— and I’ve tried just about every other thing, including building native UIs for a decade.
It’s not perfect. I think we’ll find a better approach eventually, which is why I’m fine with the churn. The churn is part of the search for something better.
I hate the poor UX often produced by React— fat, slow, clunky pages with loading spinners and jank. So, I sympathize with the author. I hope something like Quik gets it’s footing.
But until there’s a better way to build UIs from this subjective developer’s perspective, I’m sticking with React.
Re: The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
#4This seems to refer to some new consensus that everyone now agrees to, but I am not sure what they are referencing. Does anyone know?
Re: The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
#5'toxic positivity'
that's a new one
Re: The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
#6Ah, yes. Everyone’s favorite whipping boy: the front end developers. I don’t think the last decade was a mistake. React (and Preact and similar) are my favorite ways to build out UIs. I prefer it to every other thing I’ve tried— and I’ve tried just about every other thing, including building native UIs for a decade. It’s not perfect. I think we’ll find a better approach eventually, which is why I’m fine with the chur…
React is the worst form of front-end development. Except for all others.
Re: The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
#7After reading the entire thread I am still in the dark about what exactly the author wants to see changed. The narrative that frameworks = bad and vanilla js = good falls apart quickly IMHO in medium to large sized projects since the complexity has to be abstracted in some way in order to reach a realistic timeframe for completion.
I’ve heard stuff like this before. The people that say it are generally advocating for plain HTML/CSS/JS.
Re: The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
#8What's the missing context for this thread? This person seems upset at something, but it's entirely unclear what they're actually talking about...
Re: The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
#9After reading the entire thread I am still in the dark about what exactly the author wants to see changed. The narrative that frameworks = bad and vanilla js = good falls apart quickly IMHO in medium to large sized projects since the complexity has to be abstracted in some way in order to reach a realistic timeframe for completion.
I'm in the same boat, I was expecting some punchline .. it's just moaning without anything concrete
Re: The front end community wants to wash its hands of the decade we lost
#10After reading the entire thread I am still in the dark about what exactly the author wants to see changed. The narrative that frameworks = bad and vanilla js = good falls apart quickly IMHO in medium to large sized projects since the complexity has to be abstracted in some way in order to reach a realistic timeframe for completion.
JavaScript and CSS both provide abstractions for complexity.
So, I am not sure exactly what your point is?