TikTok Parent ByteDance Sees Losses Swell in Push for Growth
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#2It’s not supposed to make money, it’s a spy tool subsidized by a foreign adversary…
Re: TikTok Parent ByteDance Sees Losses Swell in Push for Growth
#3It’s not supposed to make money, it’s a spy tool subsidized by a foreign adversary…
Can you explain how this is a spy tool and how Youtube, Instagram, Facebook, etc. are not? I haven't really used TikTok. How does it collect data beyond the videos I've watched?
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#4It’s not supposed to make money, it’s a spy tool subsidized by a foreign adversary…
Is this also true for highly-funded, money-losing SV startups focusing on growth. Why or why not?
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#5It’s not supposed to make money, it’s a spy tool subsidized by a foreign adversary…
Is this also true for highly-funded, money-losing SV startups focusing on growth. Why or why not?
Well, I don't agree with OP, but the Chinese government is way more involved with its companies than the US is. Here, ostensibly, there's a court and legal process - versus China, where the government has all data by default.
So, any Chinese tech company is de facto going to have all of its data accessible by the Chinese government, by default.
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#6Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this also true for highly-funded, money-losing SV startups focusing on growth. Why or why not?
Well, I don't agree with OP, but the Chinese government is way more involved with its companies than the US is. Here, ostensibly, there's a court and legal process - versus China, where the government has all data by default. So, any Chinese tech company is de facto going to have all of its data accessible by the Chinese government, by default.
It's interesting to see you make these claims when you know nothing about the workings of the legal system in China.
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#7It’s not supposed to make money, it’s a spy tool subsidized by a foreign adversary…
Can you explain how this is a spy tool and how Youtube, Instagram, Facebook, etc. are not? I haven't really used TikTok. How does it collect data beyond the videos I've watched?
They're exactly the same.
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#8It’s not supposed to make money, it’s a spy tool subsidized by a foreign adversary…
Is this also true for highly-funded, money-losing SV startups focusing on growth. Why or why not?
No one said they aren't. Yet there's always someone in any given thread about a Chinese app jumping to its defense saying "but Silicon Valley."
So should no one speak out against concentration camps, cultural genocide, and mass sterilization in China today because the same things have happened historically in the United States? China being an adversary should have nothing to do with it? If we can't point out such a problem with an app, then the road we're going down is we can't say anything else about China either.
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#9It’s not supposed to make money, it’s a spy tool subsidized by a foreign adversary…
Can you explain how this is a spy tool and how Youtube, Instagram, Facebook, etc. are not? I haven't really used TikTok. How does it collect data beyond the videos I've watched?
It seems to use the same bag of tricks Facebook/LinkedIn/etc. use to track things you do "off-app": tracking code in share widgets, injecting JS into the in-app browser, tracking cookies[1].
If ByteDance ever releases an Onavo style VPN app, people are going to lose their minds.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, I don't agree with OP, but the Chinese government is way more involved with its companies than the US is. Here, ostensibly, there's a court and legal process - versus China, where the government has all data by default. So, any Chinese tech company is de facto going to have all of its data accessible by the Chinese government, by default.
It's interesting to see you make these claims when you know nothing about the workings of the legal system in China.
By Chinese law all data must be made accessible to the government. Of course, it's also an authoritarian state where the government isn't hamstrung by the legal system in any way.