Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by lanakei » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 1:59 PM UTC

Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection
blog.cloudflare.com

Re: Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by type_Ben_struct » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 2:06 PM UTC

This is very similar to Google’s Cloud Armour Adaptive Protection[1] which recently fended off a 46 million RPS DDoS attack[2].

[1] https://cloud.google.com/armor/docs/adaptive-protection-over...

[2] https://cloud.google.com/blog/products/identity-security/how...

Re: Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 3:54 PM UTC

Oh good, a new way to break things; sure hope nobody using this expands into new markets or gets a surge of traffic outside of their usual viewers!

Re: Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by jgrahamc » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:11 PM UTC

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #3

Oh good, a new way to break things; sure hope nobody using this expands into new markets or gets a surge of traffic outside of their usual viewers!

Sigh. You don't have to use this. Large companies that want super tailored DDoS protection can. Everyone else can just use our standard DDoS protection which is included with every plan and works: https://blog.cloudflare.com/26m-rps-ddos/

Re: Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by skyyler » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:17 PM UTC

jgrahamc wrote: post #4

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #3

Oh good, a new way to break things; sure hope nobody using this expands into new markets or gets a surge of traffic outside of their usual viewers!

Sigh. You don't have to use this. Large companies that want super tailored DDoS protection can. Everyone else can just use our standard DDoS protection which is included with every plan and works: https://blog.cloudflare.com/26m-rps-ddos/

Isn't it frustrating when users complain about new features that they aren't expected to use?

Why is it like that? Is it like this in other industries? Do people that use Coach bags complain when Coach introduces a wallet that they won't use?

I simply do not understand it.

Re: Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by kawsper » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:33 PM UTC

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #3

Oh good, a new way to break things; sure hope nobody using this expands into new markets or gets a surge of traffic outside of their usual viewers!

I am running quite a different browser setup from most regular web users.

I am using Firefox with multi-account containers and uBlock Origin enabled, and I also have an OpenVPN client running, the amount of captchas and distrust I receive from Cloudflare (and their customers, unknowingly I suppose) feels disproportionate.

It's funny to me that these companies most likely spends a lot of time and energy on how to optimize their websites and purchase flows, and they might not know how often Cloudflare puts up barriers and destroy their hard work.

Re: Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by jgrahamc » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:37 PM UTC

kawsper wrote: post #6

yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #3

Oh good, a new way to break things; sure hope nobody using this expands into new markets or gets a surge of traffic outside of their usual viewers!

I am running quite a different browser setup from most regular web users. I am using Firefox with multi-account containers and uBlock Origin enabled, and I also have an OpenVPN client running, the amount of captchas and distrust I receive from Cloudflare (and their customers, unknowingly I suppose) feels disproportionate. It's funny to me that these companies most likely spends a lot of time and energy on how to opti…

CAPTCHAs are going away: https://blog.cloudflare.com/end-cloudflare-captcha/

Re: Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by AcerbicZero » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:49 PM UTC

Oh, I just figured Adaptive meant that they could adapt to not protecting a site faster, in case of backlash.

Re: Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by ehPReth » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:56 PM UTC

skyyler wrote: post #5

jgrahamc wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh. You don't have to use this. Large companies that want super tailored DDoS protection can. Everyone else can just use our standard DDoS protection which is included with every plan and works: https://blog.cloudflare.com/26m-rps-ddos/

Isn't it frustrating when users complain about new features that they aren't expected to use? Why is it like that? Is it like this in other industries? Do people that use Coach bags complain when Coach introduces a wallet that they won't use? I simply do not understand it.

Sort of, at least in fashion. This store https://www.bottegaveneta.com/en-ca/large-pillow-pouch-dark-... caused a lot of mocking for their multi-thousand dollar normal looking shirts for example

Don’t think it’s deserved in Cloudflare’s case though here.

Re: Cloudflare Adaptive DDoS Protection

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Post by charcircuit » Mon, Sep 19, 2022, 4:56 PM UTC

skyyler wrote: post #5

jgrahamc wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sigh. You don't have to use this. Large companies that want super tailored DDoS protection can. Everyone else can just use our standard DDoS protection which is included with every plan and works: https://blog.cloudflare.com/26m-rps-ddos/

Isn't it frustrating when users complain about new features that they aren't expected to use? Why is it like that? Is it like this in other industries? Do people that use Coach bags complain when Coach introduces a wallet that they won't use? I simply do not understand it.

Because when they are personally detected due to a false positive it is a poor experience.