Geofencing Will Enable L5
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Geofencing Will Enable L5
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Re: Geofencing Will Enable L5
#2That's a lot of words to say "L5 capable cars may still be geofenced for reasons other than their capability to drive in areas outside their geofence (such as political reasons), so they're still technically L5"
Re: Geofencing Will Enable L5
#3Governments that can exert a greater degree of authoritarian control over transportation infrastructure will have a massive edge in technologies such as this.
In many countries it's much, much easier for the government to block out an area and ban human drivers.
They will likely be the first ones to have a true deployed fully autonomous system, while the democracies will bicker and lobby back and forth about it for another few decades.
Re: Geofencing Will Enable L5
#4Governments that can exert a greater degree of authoritarian control over transportation infrastructure will have a massive edge in technologies such as this. In many countries it's much, much easier for the government to block out an area and ban human drivers. They will likely be the first ones to have a true deployed fully autonomous system, while the democracies will bicker and lobby back and forth about it for a…
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Re: Geofencing Will Enable L5
#5I think the L4/L5 debate can be greatly helped by people realizing that the majority of human drivers on the road are not L5-capable. A sizeable chunk are L3s and not many are L5s. The way it works is that people simply don't go out in conditions they don't feel comfortable in (snowsquals, etc) and will never attempt areas they think are beyond them (comfortably driving in suburbia, but never attempting to drive in NYC, not renting a car abroad, etc)
The bar for autonomous cars is not "is it superhuman" but merely "is it useful enough at the given price". Thus to make a massive impact, you could have a cheap L3, an expensive L4 and L5s need never appear (although, I am personally pretty sure they will).
The question to ask is, how many people do you know that will refuse to drive in SF, or lack the ability to do it trouble-free for 1hr? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-a5fUrjn0Hw
Re: Geofencing Will Enable L5
#6IMO, some of the earliest truly L5 applications outside of very specific areas are going to require not only a geofence, but some amount of in-environment learning from a human driver at the wheel. This may involve some kind of conditional unlocks of L5 capabilities, in the same way that some hypercars require the owner to attend a driving school in order for the manufacturer to tell the ECU to operate at full capacity.
Re: Geofencing Will Enable L5
#7Governments that can exert a greater degree of authoritarian control over transportation infrastructure will have a massive edge in technologies such as this. In many countries it's much, much easier for the government to block out an area and ban human drivers. They will likely be the first ones to have a true deployed fully autonomous system, while the democracies will bicker and lobby back and forth about it for a…
Even China seems to have trouble keeping animals, pedestrians, and cyclists off of freeways. In practice the road operator would have to put up fences and build access control points at every on-ramp. Not easy or cheap even with high levels of authoritarian control.
Re: Geofencing Will Enable L5
#8Governments that can exert a greater degree of authoritarian control over transportation infrastructure will have a massive edge in technologies such as this. In many countries it's much, much easier for the government to block out an area and ban human drivers. They will likely be the first ones to have a true deployed fully autonomous system, while the democracies will bicker and lobby back and forth about it for a…
Even China seems to have trouble keeping animals, pedestrians, and cyclists off of freeways. In practice the road operator would have to put up fences and build access control points at every on-ramp. Not easy or cheap even with high levels of authoritarian control.
> Even China seems to have trouble keeping animals, pedestrians, and cyclists off of freeways.
In China specifically, it depends on how much they care about a particular issue.
They have no trouble keeping animals and pedestrians off the high speed rail tracks, or keeping public away from military installations, for example.
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#9One thing that bugs me about L5 is the designers of the spec think it's awesome that L5 takes the steering wheel away. Why? It seems like a downgrade. I'd never buy an L5 car because sometimes I want to drive, and break the speed limit a little.
Re: Geofencing Will Enable L5
#10I think the L4/L5 debate can be greatly helped by people realizing that the majority of human drivers on the road are not L5-capable. A sizeable chunk are L3s and not many are L5s. The way it works is that people simply don't go out in conditions they don't feel comfortable in (snowsquals, etc) and will never attempt areas they think are beyond them (comfortably driving in suburbia, but never attempting to drive in N…
I see L3 as the most dangerous level, and would prefer to see it skipped entirely. Anything that enables drivers to completely stop paying attention while continuing to drive safely, but that also requires them to be able to immediately take over control in certain circumstance is a recipe for disaster.