Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

#1

Post by tborthwick » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 1:05 PM UTC

Looking for HTML5 Nirvana
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Re: Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

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Post by CWIZO » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 1:55 PM UTC

He should really include a link to a "demo", so we can see what exactly he is doing there.

Re: Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

#3

Post by Maci » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 1:58 PM UTC

Why does this get upvoted ?

If anything, all the author expresses is the disappointment of his own expectations while not adding anything constructive.

Looking at the screenshots what he wants to achieve is perfectly doable cross browser but as per the author admission he's not much of a front-end guy.

Shots point to here > http://bigmath.herokuapp.com/ which is offline.

Re: Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

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Post by AshleysBrain » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 2:18 PM UTC

CWIZO wrote: post #2

He should really include a link to a "demo", so we can see what exactly he is doing there.

Agreed, it might not be standards compliant HTML in which case it's not the browser's fault.

Re: Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

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Post by lwhi » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 2:21 PM UTC

Maci wrote: post #3

Why does this get upvoted ? If anything, all the author expresses is the disappointment of his own expectations while not adding anything constructive. Looking at the screenshots what he wants to achieve is perfectly doable cross browser but as per the author admission he's not much of a front-end guy. Shots point to here > http://bigmath.herokuapp.com/ which is offline.

The first three images in the screenshots work as a good three panel joke.

But yep, I agree - the author shouldn't necessarily try to start a debate without offering specific use cases and failures. Far too much conjecture IMO.

Re: Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

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Post by tzury » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 2:28 PM UTC

Dear Author ( Author == OP in this case),

Can you please share markup/css you were using?

Re: Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

#7

Post by paisible » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 2:31 PM UTC

Maci wrote: post #3

Why does this get upvoted ? If anything, all the author expresses is the disappointment of his own expectations while not adding anything constructive. Looking at the screenshots what he wants to achieve is perfectly doable cross browser but as per the author admission he's not much of a front-end guy. Shots point to here > http://bigmath.herokuapp.com/ which is offline.

Even more important : HOW does this get to the first two results in the first place, with only 3 comments and 20 points ? Is it enough for 20 of the OP's friends to upvote a story for it to get to the top ? Not hating, just curious to know.

Re: Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

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Post by Meai » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 2:52 PM UTC

Maci wrote: post #3

Why does this get upvoted ? If anything, all the author expresses is the disappointment of his own expectations while not adding anything constructive. Looking at the screenshots what he wants to achieve is perfectly doable cross browser but as per the author admission he's not much of a front-end guy. Shots point to here > http://bigmath.herokuapp.com/ which is offline.

That's his point..if someone can't write and position two characters of text and have it be cross platform easily, the HTML platform itself has failed.

I had a similar thought like the author recently. Flash could have been awesome with a smaller runtime, 3D sooner, progressive rendering of content (text and images getting loaded in like in the browser instead of loading bars) Who would still use HTML? There would be no upside at all, Flash has always had better tools.

Re: Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

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Post by tomlin » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 2:55 PM UTC

Maci wrote: post #3

Why does this get upvoted ? If anything, all the author expresses is the disappointment of his own expectations while not adding anything constructive. Looking at the screenshots what he wants to achieve is perfectly doable cross browser but as per the author admission he's not much of a front-end guy. Shots point to here > http://bigmath.herokuapp.com/ which is offline.

People should try to understand that the need for the capabilities of Flash and Flash itself are being lopped together in a single, partisan viewpoint. Regretfully.

There is a need for crazy, highly interactive studio/movie sites, webcam support on the web, cross-browser reliability, fast drawing for animation and games, cross-browser 3D, audio API. Saying that these features will come one day is not an answer. "You don't need those features because..." is also not an answer. The OP's points are no more constructive that those who have answers like these against Flash.

Criticizing HTML5 means you are pro-Flash. Which means you are wrong and all of your points are invalid. Even if you're not pro-Flash.

Re: Looking for HTML5 Nirvana

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Post by watty » Mon, Nov 28, 2011, 3:01 PM UTC

Meai wrote: post #8

Maci wrote: post #3

Why does this get upvoted ? If anything, all the author expresses is the disappointment of his own expectations while not adding anything constructive. Looking at the screenshots what he wants to achieve is perfectly doable cross browser but as per the author admission he's not much of a front-end guy. Shots point to here > http://bigmath.herokuapp.com/ which is offline.

That's his point..if someone can't write and position two characters of text and have it be cross platform easily, the HTML platform itself has failed. I had a similar thought like the author recently. Flash could have been awesome with a smaller runtime, 3D sooner, progressive rendering of content (text and images getting loaded in like in the browser instead of loading bars) Who would still use HTML? There would be…

He has a great point if it's legit. Without source we have no idea what's going on or if he even has valid HTML to begin with.

I have no problems centering content horizontally cross browser (which he complains about).