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Re: From Prison to Programming

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This is the story of how Rick Wolter learned to program in prison and ultimately became a professional iOS developer.

I figure any story that involves smuggling a python interpreter into prison on a USB stick seems like it might interest people here.

But I think its also an important story because it’s about how software development can be life changing and lift people up out of hard situations.

Re: From Prison to Programming

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This is the story of how Rick Wolter learned to program in prison and ultimately became a professional iOS developer. I figure any story that involves smuggling a python interpreter into prison on a USB stick seems like it might interest people here. But I think its also an important story because it’s about how software development can be life changing and lift people up out of hard situations.

Oh, also Rick has some of the most practical advice on learning programming, and transition to a professional dev that I've seen.

     I know it’s not popular to just talk about grinding, the overwork culture is not popular. I get that, this is a different space. You want this shit? You got to grind. You’re going to have to do it on the weekends, you’re going to have to lock in. I’m sure someone’s going to be like, “Oh, no you don’t. I don’t have to. don’t put that pressure on them,” that’s fine. But to me, when you come from a background, especially if you’re a felon, but even if you’re not a felon, you don’t have a college that’s going to give you any kind of signal.

    Everyone talks about the college debt but your local community college isn’t that expensive. And then, that way, maybe you could just cut your work down to 10, 20 hours and then spend the rest of time coding.

    You focus on fundamentals first. Data structures, control flow, that kind of thing and stick to that for a short period of time. Maybe a month, month and a half, just do that basic stuff. It’s not popular, people want to see things on their screen, they want to say they built a thing but you’ve got to get those fundamentals first and there’s so many free options, Coursera, freeCodeCamp. And then, once you get some fundamentals, then you can decide on the platform.

    And once you pick your platform, just focus and stick to it. If you’re building Ruby on Rails, do that every day but make sure you’re building it. Hands on the keyboard, watch a tutorial then do the tutorial again but change some things then try to recreate what you built in the tutorial while not looking, that kind of thing. Because that’s the main thing is getting your skills up.

Re: From Prison to Programming

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I know a few people who were in prison, some for serious crimes.

Based upon my very unscientific sample, many of these guys were pretty smart. It makes me wonder how their environment in school (peers and/or teachers) along with social pressure put some of them on that path.

I hear if smart people are not engaged in classes, they get bored rather quickly and start doing poorly.

When I was young, I remember many times teachers would focus on the kids having a hard time learning, which is understandable. But some of the smarter kids may decide "why bother" when not given attention they may crave.

Re: From Prison to Programming

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post #4

I know a few people who were in prison, some for serious crimes. Based upon my very unscientific sample, many of these guys were pretty smart. It makes me wonder how their environment in school (peers and/or teachers) along with social pressure put some of them on that path. I hear if smart people are not engaged in classes, they get bored rather quickly and start doing poorly. When I was young, I remember many times…

For me it had nothing to do with attention... if you let me read my books quietly in class while you're wasting my time with a lecture I can absorb in two minutes at home, we don't have a problem. I'll show up and pass your test.

Most of my teachers understood this and got out of my way. The ones who didn't understand caused me no end of problems in their attempts to force me to conform to expectations I never signed off on. I was the smartest (read: just the most motivated) kid at most of the schools I went to and also among the most frequently written up, punished or suspended.

I had a reputation for getting sent to the office at least once every two weeks, inevitably due to some form of "willful disobedience", which was just me refusing to buckle to any perceived narcissism or institutional coercion foisted upon me. Authority figures either hated that they could not control me, or warmly accepted that if they just left me alone I would pass their stupid tests with flying colors.

It wasn't until my last two years of high school, when I was homeless and attending on my own cognizance, that teachers finally backed the fuck off and realized what they were dealing with. Except a single teacher. My transcripts were illegally altered by a teacher who felt that she had to "win" against me, and ultimately caused me 10 years of economic hardship after high school. I passed every class, had the highest test scores. and she still found a way to rob me of the multiple full-ride scholarship opportunities I had received for several engineering colleges, just to put a boot down on my face one last time on my way out. This was substantial enough to sue the school department over, but when you're homeless and your parents are drug addicts, you don't get these opportunities.

This is what an under-stimulated individual with no support structure looks like. And I felt the concerted institutional effort every single step of the way to push me down and grind me into submission, to teach me I was a criminal for thinking for myself. I have a much more tolerant view of many forms of criminal behavior because of this experience and that is no accident.

Re: From Prison to Programming

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I've also been to prison.

My story is homeless at 20, no friends or family, in debt about $20k and just got out of prison as a convicted felon.

Now I've built 2.5 unicorns, one of which I helped start. Right now, I've started two side projects that are nearing the $1M ARR (combined).

Programming is a great leveler in today's world. I cannot express how lucky I am to have found it early in my life.

I have a great desire to give back, and somehow fix recidivism in the USA, but it feels so unreachable. I've heard that 70M Jobs was shutting down, and I reached out to the owner, but he brushed me off in an email. At some point, I'd like to give it a real shot.

Re: From Prison to Programming

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Ex-cons have a tough time getting jobs and this can help lead to recidivism. It seems like programming would be a great way to keep felons from going back to prison. Getting paid to WFH on an open source project would be low risk.

Re: From Prison to Programming

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post #4

I know a few people who were in prison, some for serious crimes. Based upon my very unscientific sample, many of these guys were pretty smart. It makes me wonder how their environment in school (peers and/or teachers) along with social pressure put some of them on that path. I hear if smart people are not engaged in classes, they get bored rather quickly and start doing poorly. When I was young, I remember many times…

I've dabbled in "gray" things but never anything that would get me sent to prison (I lack the risk tolerance), but in case, I turned to that kind of work because playing by the rules (at the time) got me nowhere. At the time, I was reliant on Medicaid to manage my progressive illness (MS) and was limited to earning ~1k a month.

Which obviously wasn't enough to live on, so I started bartering and doing work under the table. The safest kind of under the table work is work where if it's discovered, everybody involved would be 'in trouble'. That way everybody has an incentive to Shut The Fuck Up.

If you put smart people into corners, they're going to find ways outside of the system to prosper.

Edit: Also, if you have the right skills, you can make BANK, especially since you don't pay taxes on illicit income. I at one point made ~$100/hr, and I wasn't doing anything illegal.

Re: From Prison to Programming

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This is the story of how Rick Wolter learned to program in prison and ultimately became a professional iOS developer. I figure any story that involves smuggling a python interpreter into prison on a USB stick seems like it might interest people here. But I think its also an important story because it’s about how software development can be life changing and lift people up out of hard situations.

So I was talking to a cop, because I do in fact talk to cops all the time, talked about prison, like convicts pretending to be sick for a bit, I told him that's like their vacation. Then escape came up, Marshal Service came up. I told him, dude rather stay right in my cell than being hunted by the Marshal Service.

Dude like Wyatt Earp? The only escape from Wyatt Earp, the only safe harbor, the real place you can go, is stay right where you are, in your cell.

So this is a sick hack, that's exactly what this forum is about.

Hacker News.

Re: From Prison to Programming

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I've also been to prison. My story is homeless at 20, no friends or family, in debt about $20k and just got out of prison as a convicted felon. Now I've built 2.5 unicorns, one of which I helped start. Right now, I've started two side projects that are nearing the $1M ARR (combined). Programming is a great leveler in today's world. I cannot express how lucky I am to have found it early in my life. I have a great desi…

If you want to give back, consider hiring from the organization Rick (subject of the podcast) started - Underdog Devs.

It’s a loosely collected group of mentors and mentees with a small dedicated group of full-time learners on a stipend program

The #1 challenge, by far, faced by the org is hiring and placement into companies for cohort graduates and mentees.

If you’re able, consider posting job listings in the UD slack

https://www.underdogdevs.org/

*I am part of the group as a mentor and its been on the whole an incredibly positive experience

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