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Re: To speak meaningfully about art

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To speak meaningfully about art you only need to expand your understanding of what constitutes art. "Thoughtful" conversations on art have nothing to do with brush strokes or color palettes or even taste. Qualifying art as "good" or "bad" is a subjective measure you probably should've left in middle school. And realistically, you'll never really know what is "good" or "bad" art without years of exposure to the ideas and thoughts that go into the work.

Re: To speak meaningfully about art

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I've recently become fascinated with Man Ray and Robert Rauschenberg and I don't know why. I have no intention of becoming an expert on art so I am not bothering to look up the theory behind their mixed media creations. Even if they had one, I'm not sure it would interest me. I'm more interested in what my reaction to art says about me. Art for me is a tool for self-discovery. What the artist or art critic says about the work might be interesting, but mostly irrelevant to me.

Re: To speak meaningfully about art

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A job soon to be taken over by successors to GPT-3. Soon, the chattering classes will be automated out of jobs.

This is a very HN/SV take right here. Most technologists are philistines (hence the obsession with art automation).

> Most technologies are philistines

Did you mean "Most technologists are Philistines"?

Re: To speak meaningfully about art

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To speak meaningfully about art you only need to expand your understanding of what constitutes art. "Thoughtful" conversations on art have nothing to do with brush strokes or color palettes or even taste. Qualifying art as "good" or "bad" is a subjective measure you probably should've left in middle school. And realistically, you'll never really know what is "good" or "bad" art without years of exposure to the ideas…

I don't agree, and I suppose this is just my opinion but I just tend to dislike the idea that art is in the eye of the beholder.

I think we've extended the use of the word art too far. In my opinion art is really just paintings and sculptures. Good art involves a lot of skill, eg: years of practice, attention to detail, sophisticated processes, careful choice of mediums, tasteful composition, and choice of subject matter. While a lot of this stuff is opinionated there are definitely rules to a lot of these things. There are essentially guidelines that have log existed for measuring an artists ability to capture color, shapes, light, and movement. Even with more modern styles like van Gogh and Monet these rules applied.

At some point we threw this out the window with the post modern movement and said art can be anything, becoming more focused on the cleverness and profound underlying message that this new "art" contained rather than the skill, dedication, and aesthetics that went into it.

Re: To speak meaningfully about art

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a very HN/SV take right here. Most technologists are philistines (hence the obsession with art automation).

> Most technologies are philistines Did you mean "Most technologists are Philistines"?

Apparently technology (my phone) is too. Thanks :)

Re: To speak meaningfully about art

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To speak meaningfully about art you only need to expand your understanding of what constitutes art. "Thoughtful" conversations on art have nothing to do with brush strokes or color palettes or even taste. Qualifying art as "good" or "bad" is a subjective measure you probably should've left in middle school. And realistically, you'll never really know what is "good" or "bad" art without years of exposure to the ideas…

I don't agree, and I suppose this is just my opinion but I just tend to dislike the idea that art is in the eye of the beholder. I think we've extended the use of the word art too far. In my opinion art is really just paintings and sculptures. Good art involves a lot of skill, eg: years of practice, attention to detail, sophisticated processes, careful choice of mediums, tasteful composition, and choice of subject ma…

I remember the first time I walked into a gallery and saw that someone had stenciled "FUCK" on the wall and the docent was smugly explaining about how artistically creative it was. Nah, sometimes a "FUCK" is just a "FUCK."

So-called modern art is, at best, a money laundering scheme, and other applications go downhill from there.

That's not to say there aren't tons of gifted and talented artists making art today, they just aren't who you're going to see in the galleries.

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