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Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

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Re: Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

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I have to say, this is really concerning. I assumed it was bad, but this sounds really REALLY bad. How would we even go about attempting to coordinate a response to this? Strongarming polluting countries into enforcing compliance? Massive economic uplift projects / infrastructure investments for waste treatment and new materials? Ban of products, trying to catch the job loss somehow? I'm at my wit's end.

Re: Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

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post #2

I have to say, this is really concerning. I assumed it was bad, but this sounds really REALLY bad. How would we even go about attempting to coordinate a response to this? Strongarming polluting countries into enforcing compliance? Massive economic uplift projects / infrastructure investments for waste treatment and new materials? Ban of products, trying to catch the job loss somehow? I'm at my wit's end.

Yeah so this really took the shine off of my morning too, BUT apparently it's a crappy study without good backing for its claims. Some guy on reddit remarked that the plankton are still clearly visible from space in huge amounts. THAT SAID, we don't need to wait around for this headline except for real before we take action, and countries really need to get their stuff in gear.

There's no good reason for plastic to be leaving waterways and entering the ocean, and farmers need to be strongly pushed and supported to look at ways to farm without leaching fertilizer.

And yes, all your ideas are good ones. We need to try a bunch of these things.

Re: Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

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post #2

I have to say, this is really concerning. I assumed it was bad, but this sounds really REALLY bad. How would we even go about attempting to coordinate a response to this? Strongarming polluting countries into enforcing compliance? Massive economic uplift projects / infrastructure investments for waste treatment and new materials? Ban of products, trying to catch the job loss somehow? I'm at my wit's end.

Assuming it is as bad as the article claims, then sadly I think we all know how this will go. Because it would require massive effort and inconvenience many, especially the wealthy, the reality of the situation will be denied and any attempts at remedy will be fought. We saw this all play out with climate change already.

Re: Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

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post #2

I have to say, this is really concerning. I assumed it was bad, but this sounds really REALLY bad. How would we even go about attempting to coordinate a response to this? Strongarming polluting countries into enforcing compliance? Massive economic uplift projects / infrastructure investments for waste treatment and new materials? Ban of products, trying to catch the job loss somehow? I'm at my wit's end.

There is nothing we as individuals can do about it.

Global industry pollution should have been internationally controlled decades ago if we would have had any chance of ducking this.

Many has screamed about this for years, recently Greta.

2 years of covid pandemic gave the earth some breathing-room but seems in hindsight only to have slowed down the end date by about 6 months, according to recent graphs.

The decision makers never cared.

Now we are fucked.

Re: Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

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post #2

I have to say, this is really concerning. I assumed it was bad, but this sounds really REALLY bad. How would we even go about attempting to coordinate a response to this? Strongarming polluting countries into enforcing compliance? Massive economic uplift projects / infrastructure investments for waste treatment and new materials? Ban of products, trying to catch the job loss somehow? I'm at my wit's end.

Yeah so this really took the shine off of my morning too, BUT apparently it's a crappy study without good backing for its claims. Some guy on reddit remarked that the plankton are still clearly visible from space in huge amounts. THAT SAID, we don't need to wait around for this headline except for real before we take action, and countries really need to get their stuff in gear. There's no good reason for plastic to b…

Seriously?

You try to discredit a serious article about a subject you should be well aware is 100% true by now even if you were in fact living under a rock.-- by siding with random anon redditor that had a take more suitable for your world view.

It is not surprising the least why we are in this rut.

Re: Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

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This is absolute garbage. Saying the plankton are gone is incredibly unlikely and requires extraordinary evidence. We can see plankton from space https://eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov/images/globalmaps/data/MY1DMM... and what we see in no way correlates with “the plankton is all gone”.

Re: Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

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post #2

I have to say, this is really concerning. I assumed it was bad, but this sounds really REALLY bad. How would we even go about attempting to coordinate a response to this? Strongarming polluting countries into enforcing compliance? Massive economic uplift projects / infrastructure investments for waste treatment and new materials? Ban of products, trying to catch the job loss somehow? I'm at my wit's end.

There is nothing we as individuals can do about it. Global industry pollution should have been internationally controlled decades ago if we would have had any chance of ducking this. Many has screamed about this for years, recently Greta. 2 years of covid pandemic gave the earth some breathing-room but seems in hindsight only to have slowed down the end date by about 6 months, according to recent graphs. The decision…

Stop. Please stop it.

Defeatism won't help us. In fact, it's a new strategy of oil/plastic/meat/dairy producers, to stop people from changing status quo.

We as individuals can do plenty. We can change our eating and spending habits (cocacola & burger anyone?), we can demand change, we can stop buying stuff, we can protest, we can educate, we can plant trees and forests, we can stop people spreading defeatism etc.

So do something. Just don't spread this attitude, please.

Re: Scots research finds Atlantic plankton all but wiped out

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post #2

I have to say, this is really concerning. I assumed it was bad, but this sounds really REALLY bad. How would we even go about attempting to coordinate a response to this? Strongarming polluting countries into enforcing compliance? Massive economic uplift projects / infrastructure investments for waste treatment and new materials? Ban of products, trying to catch the job loss somehow? I'm at my wit's end.

Assuming it is as bad as the article claims, then sadly I think we all know how this will go. Because it would require massive effort and inconvenience many, especially the wealthy, the reality of the situation will be denied and any attempts at remedy will be fought. We saw this all play out with climate change already.

We have to change ourselves, fast, and then the change will come automatically.

Stop traveling everywhere by car/plane, stop buying meat/dairy, stop buying plastic (check your shopping basket), reject consumerism, educate others to do the same, organize, then bring off legislative change.

The wealthy are just the minor obstacle. The masses of people not willing to change their habits may be bigger problem.

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