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Climate change is not just about Carbon Dioxide

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Re: Climate change is not just about Carbon Dioxide

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"pH will drop to pH7.95 by 2045, and most marine life in our oceans dissolve."

As someone who considers themselves an environmentalist, I find this sort of language to have a net-negative impact on our collective cause. The paper fails to provide comprehensive evidence for the idea that a pH change of 0.08 will result in all carbonate-based marine life dissolving.

When 2045 comes, and the coral still exists, our populace will be further trained to ignore the warnings of climate scientists.

Re: Climate change is not just about Carbon Dioxide

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post #3

"pH will drop to pH7.95 by 2045, and most marine life in our oceans dissolve." As someone who considers themselves an environmentalist, I find this sort of language to have a net-negative impact on our collective cause. The paper fails to provide comprehensive evidence for the idea that a pH change of 0.08 will result in all carbonate-based marine life dissolving. When 2045 comes, and the coral still exists, our popu…

> When 2045 comes, and the coral still exists,

It won't exist in the ocean. This language is accurate, based on what we know, and appropriately conclusive.

I opened the article hoping it highlighted the most immediate problem (ocean acidification) and I was not disappointed. The plastic, yeah it's bad, but it's not going to kill off most sea life.

Re: Climate change is not just about Carbon Dioxide

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post #3

"pH will drop to pH7.95 by 2045, and most marine life in our oceans dissolve." As someone who considers themselves an environmentalist, I find this sort of language to have a net-negative impact on our collective cause. The paper fails to provide comprehensive evidence for the idea that a pH change of 0.08 will result in all carbonate-based marine life dissolving. When 2045 comes, and the coral still exists, our popu…

The linked PDF is not so much a "paper" as it is a mid-tier web article, IMO.

Another claim seems plausible, but is kind of hilariously hand-waved:

> 90% of our oxygen comes from the oceans and more than 90% of our carbon dioxide ends up in the oceans. This figure [which figure?] is usually reported as 50%, but 90% is more accurate.

Re: Climate change is not just about Carbon Dioxide

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post #3

"pH will drop to pH7.95 by 2045, and most marine life in our oceans dissolve." As someone who considers themselves an environmentalist, I find this sort of language to have a net-negative impact on our collective cause. The paper fails to provide comprehensive evidence for the idea that a pH change of 0.08 will result in all carbonate-based marine life dissolving. When 2045 comes, and the coral still exists, our popu…

The linked PDF is not so much a "paper" as it is a mid-tier web article, IMO. Another claim seems plausible, but is kind of hilariously hand-waved: > 90% of our oxygen comes from the oceans and more than 90% of our carbon dioxide ends up in the oceans. This figure [which figure?] is usually reported as 50%, but 90% is more accurate.

Make science more approachable, they said... now it's not sciency enough!

Re: Climate change is not just about Carbon Dioxide

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post #3

"pH will drop to pH7.95 by 2045, and most marine life in our oceans dissolve." As someone who considers themselves an environmentalist, I find this sort of language to have a net-negative impact on our collective cause. The paper fails to provide comprehensive evidence for the idea that a pH change of 0.08 will result in all carbonate-based marine life dissolving. When 2045 comes, and the coral still exists, our popu…

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Re: Climate change is not just about Carbon Dioxide

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post #3

"pH will drop to pH7.95 by 2045, and most marine life in our oceans dissolve." As someone who considers themselves an environmentalist, I find this sort of language to have a net-negative impact on our collective cause. The paper fails to provide comprehensive evidence for the idea that a pH change of 0.08 will result in all carbonate-based marine life dissolving. When 2045 comes, and the coral still exists, our popu…

Funny thing that ocean acidification is mostly about carbon dioxide too. The choice of title is basically as bad as that phrase.
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