Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
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Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
#2Wonder whether the government of India makes any demarcation between corporate VPN or personal VPNs? Or is it just consumer VPN services that need to comply.
Everything from cloud vendors, ZScaler, Cisco AnyConnect are technically offering access to private networks with a mix of public internet &/or intranet
Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
#3Wonder whether the government of India makes any demarcation between corporate VPN or personal VPNs? Or is it just consumer VPN services that need to comply. Everything from cloud vendors, ZScaler, Cisco AnyConnect are technically offering access to private networks with a mix of public internet &/or intranet
Usually such laws target consumer VPNs but I don't have more insights on this specific case
Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
#4What if you spin up a VPS based in India and install OpenVPN/Wireguard on it? Surely they can’t demand logs of a box you operate yourself?
Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
#5What if you spin up a VPS based in India and install OpenVPN/Wireguard on it? Surely they can’t demand logs of a box you operate yourself?
They'd tell the provider not you
Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
#6What if you spin up a VPS based in India and install OpenVPN/Wireguard on it? Surely they can’t demand logs of a box you operate yourself?
What makes you think you can operate in a country without obeying its laws, however detrimental to privacy they are ?
Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
#7> Rest assured, our users will still be able to connect to VPN servers that will give them Indian IP addresses and allow them to access the internet as if they were located in India. These “virtual” India servers will instead be physically located in Singapore and the UK.
Wondering why anyone is still using ip-based geolocation. The most popular use for VPN's is mocking your location to Steam and Netflix. Could be these players allow mock locations because it gives them revenue..
Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
#8What if you spin up a VPS based in India and install OpenVPN/Wireguard on it? Surely they can’t demand logs of a box you operate yourself?
Yeah but what’s the point? A single-user VPN means all traffic is already attributable to them.
If the intent is just to access the Indian web, then sure. I’m sure there are plenty other non-privacy-aware VPNs that let you do that though.
Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
#9What if you spin up a VPS based in India and install OpenVPN/Wireguard on it? Surely they can’t demand logs of a box you operate yourself?
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Re: Rejecting data demands, ExpressVPN removes VPN servers in India
#10What if you spin up a VPS based in India and install OpenVPN/Wireguard on it? Surely they can’t demand logs of a box you operate yourself?
What makes you think you can operate in a country without obeying its laws, however detrimental to privacy they are ?
I got some for you:
- principles, and going as far as extending freedom even if you personally already benefit from it
- civil desobedience is a thing, even though some stances are questionable.
And, I thought the debate for more needs of privacy, and given the threats have been proven to even come from governments (snowden/NSA, pegasus), was settled, visibly it isn't if even on HN such argument is given in the context of such a clear subject. The overstepping body there is the government, not the busines imo.