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World's top graduates get new UK visa option

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Re: World's top graduates get new UK visa option

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Yeah, but. Foreign graduates from UK universities are chased out immediately. Unless that’s changed? It was a major plank in the 2014 Scottish referendum platform.

The Uk as a whole is oscillating wildly from one extreme to the other politically. Immigration policy doubly so...

Re: World's top graduates get new UK visa option

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"I am proud to be launching this new and exciting route as part of our points-based immigration system which puts ability and talent first, not where someone comes from." Subtle dig across the Atlantic?

I suspect it's a reference to the EU's Free Movement policy.

Re: World's top graduates get new UK visa option

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post #2

Yeah, but. Foreign graduates from UK universities are chased out immediately. Unless that’s changed? It was a major plank in the 2014 Scottish referendum platform.

It has, from the article.

“The scheme follows changes to allow foreign nationals to stay and work in Britain for up to two years instead of having to leave after finishing a degree.”

Re: World's top graduates get new UK visa option

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> Home Secretary Priti Patel added: "I am proud to be launching this new and exciting route as part of our points-based immigration system which puts ability and talent first, not where someone comes from."

For this visa route to "put ability and talent first", the policy would have to be designed to look for and accept evidence of those traits in whatever forms are available.

But this visa does not place ability and talent first, as most talented people cannot go to Ivy League and equivalent for other reasons, and the visa criteria don't accept other evidence of exceptional talent and ability. I have nothing against great universities (I went to one and have a poor family background), but access to wealth, historical family wealth, and factors such as race and country of birth play a big role statistically in who attends the top few.

As for "not where someone comes from", as the article notes the visa is entirely closed to people graduating in the countries of South Asia, Latin America or Africa. Regardless of demonstrable talent, those at the top of the league in the wrong countries don't qualify for this "not where someone comes from" visa.

In related news yesterday, an official Home Office report concluded "30 years of racist immigration legislation designed to reduce the UK’s non-white population". https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/29/windrush-sca...

Call me cynical, but I think today's announcement is another point on that trend line.

Re: World's top graduates get new UK visa option

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"I am proud to be launching this new and exciting route as part of our points-based immigration system which puts ability and talent first, not where someone comes from." Subtle dig across the Atlantic?

> To qualify, a person must have attended a university that appeared in the top 50 of at least two of the Times Higher Education World University Rankings, the Quacquarelli Symonds World University Rankings, or The Academic Ranking of World Universities in the year they graduated.

> The list of eligible universities from 2021, published online by the government, featured 20 US universities, including Harvard, Yale, and MIT.

> There were a further 17 qualifying institutions, including the University of Hong Kong, University of Melbourne, and the Paris Sciences et Lettres University.

> Some academics have voiced their disappointment that no South Asian, Latin American or African universities have been included on the list.

Heh, horrible Priti Patel[1], implementing in the UK Trump's "No shithole countries" policies.

People who graduated from a top 50 university probably won't have a problem finding a job/visa sponsorship anywhere in the world anyway, it makes me wonder how the UK think this will attract them.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/politics/priti-patel

Re: World's top graduates get new UK visa option

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Yeah, but. Foreign graduates from UK universities are chased out immediately. Unless that’s changed? It was a major plank in the 2014 Scottish referendum platform.

It has, from the article. “The scheme follows changes to allow foreign nationals to stay and work in Britain for up to two years instead of having to leave after finishing a degree.”

This is just a reversal of a decision by Theresa May's Home Office back in 2012.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/major-changes-to-student-...

They claimed it was to get rid of degree farms where 'schools' can just get students to pay for a degree for a work visa.

Re: World's top graduates get new UK visa option

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This policy is 100% voter appeasement and only to score political brownie points. If you graduate from a top Uni you'll have no issue getting a Tier 2 sponsorship (which costs less than £1000 per year plus some £200 per case for a company).

So whom are these visas for?

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