World's top graduates get new UK visa option
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#3Subtle dig across the Atlantic?
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#4Yeah, but. Foreign graduates from UK universities are chased out immediately. Unless that’s changed? It was a major plank in the 2014 Scottish referendum platform.
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#5"I am proud to be launching this new and exciting route as part of our points-based immigration system which puts ability and talent first, not where someone comes from." Subtle dig across the Atlantic?
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#6Yeah, but. Foreign graduates from UK universities are chased out immediately. Unless that’s changed? It was a major plank in the 2014 Scottish referendum platform.
“The scheme follows changes to allow foreign nationals to stay and work in Britain for up to two years instead of having to leave after finishing a degree.”
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#7For this visa route to "put ability and talent first", the policy would have to be designed to look for and accept evidence of those traits in whatever forms are available.
But this visa does not place ability and talent first, as most talented people cannot go to Ivy League and equivalent for other reasons, and the visa criteria don't accept other evidence of exceptional talent and ability. I have nothing against great universities (I went to one and have a poor family background), but access to wealth, historical family wealth, and factors such as race and country of birth play a big role statistically in who attends the top few.
As for "not where someone comes from", as the article notes the visa is entirely closed to people graduating in the countries of South Asia, Latin America or Africa. Regardless of demonstrable talent, those at the top of the league in the wrong countries don't qualify for this "not where someone comes from" visa.
In related news yesterday, an official Home Office report concluded "30 years of racist immigration legislation designed to reduce the UK’s non-white population". https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/may/29/windrush-sca...
Call me cynical, but I think today's announcement is another point on that trend line.
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#8"I am proud to be launching this new and exciting route as part of our points-based immigration system which puts ability and talent first, not where someone comes from." Subtle dig across the Atlantic?
> The list of eligible universities from 2021, published online by the government, featured 20 US universities, including Harvard, Yale, and MIT.
> There were a further 17 qualifying institutions, including the University of Hong Kong, University of Melbourne, and the Paris Sciences et Lettres University.
> Some academics have voiced their disappointment that no South Asian, Latin American or African universities have been included on the list.
Heh, horrible Priti Patel[1], implementing in the UK Trump's "No shithole countries" policies.
People who graduated from a top 50 university probably won't have a problem finding a job/visa sponsorship anywhere in the world anyway, it makes me wonder how the UK think this will attract them.
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#9Yeah, but. Foreign graduates from UK universities are chased out immediately. Unless that’s changed? It was a major plank in the 2014 Scottish referendum platform.
It has, from the article. “The scheme follows changes to allow foreign nationals to stay and work in Britain for up to two years instead of having to leave after finishing a degree.”
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/major-changes-to-student-...
They claimed it was to get rid of degree farms where 'schools' can just get students to pay for a degree for a work visa.
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#10So whom are these visas for?