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Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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“It will be free upfront; the team is looking at developing premium subscription features for enterprise users, perhaps somewhere around $12 a month, echoing the freemium model of Slack Technologies Inc., Dropbox Inc., and other productivity services.”

Good luck with that. The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it. If it’s open source then it will be ridiculed for not having an open license. If there’s an open license then it’s no longer yours to control and monetize.

Chrome gets away with this because of chromium is the core, Chrome is the added “management” of your browser “experience”. Safari gets away with this because WebKit is core, Safari is the added “management”. Both are free from a monetary cost perspective on the user. Both position themselves as the keeper of secrets for their platform.

I’m all for an open/free/libre browser that isn’t WebKit. I believe it’s naive to think you can change the existing web experience with a browser alone.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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“It will be free upfront; the team is looking at developing premium subscription features for enterprise users, perhaps somewhere around $12 a month, echoing the freemium model of Slack Technologies Inc., Dropbox Inc., and other productivity services.” Good luck with that. The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it. If it’s open source then it will be ridiculed for not having an op…

> The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it

Keep in mind that the last time this was tried, free/open-source alternatives were on-par if not better and the web was much less hostile.

Nowadays, not only is the web teeming with hostility that can best be addressed by a browser, but the closest free/open-source solution (Firefox) is half-baked and doesn't actually solve many of these issues nor is it incentivized to due to murky funding (most of it comes from Google, a big advertising provider) and a dysfunctional company.

A browser whose funding comes directly from its users wouldn't have these misaligned incentives and wouldn't be afraid of doing bold moves that piss off adtech.

The Enterprise™ spends a lot of money on (often dubious) security products and given that the browser is often on the front-line for various threats, a browser with built-in security features (both against malware and other features such as DLP, blocking/filtering/monitoring without middleboxes) with a paid enterprise plan subsidizing a free version for personal use could become a sustainable business.

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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post #5

Is there any reason that they couldn't build this ui on top of chrome? I've seen quite a lot of chrome based browsers with interesting uis

a ui on top of chrome doesn't get you $25 million in funding and a dedicated Bloomberg article

edit: apparently it does

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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post #6

“It will be free upfront; the team is looking at developing premium subscription features for enterprise users, perhaps somewhere around $12 a month, echoing the freemium model of Slack Technologies Inc., Dropbox Inc., and other productivity services.” Good luck with that. The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it. If it’s open source then it will be ridiculed for not having an op…

> The majority of browsers that were commercially closed software didn’t make it Keep in mind that the last time this was tried, free/open-source alternatives were on-par if not better and the web was much less hostile. Nowadays, not only is the web teeming with hostility that can best be addressed by a browser, but the closest free/open-source solution (Firefox) is half-baked and doesn't actually solve many of these…

how is Firefox half-baked?

i'm using it every day along with Safari and don't see any significant differences

Re: Arc Browser Company: Chrome and Safari face a new challenger

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It's hard to read articles with this unabashed of a tone, feels like much of the company's own claims are uncritically re-printed.

A lot of news media is lightly edited press releases. PR pros outnumber journalists 6-1 [1] and they do a lot of the work for journalists upfront that make it easier for them to publish.

[1] https://www.prdaily.com/report-pr-pros-outnumber-journalists...

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