Tesla's Safety Record vs. Volvo
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Tesla's Safety Record vs. Volvo
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Re: Tesla's Safety Record vs. Volvo
#2 And while Volvo states a clear commitment to reaching zero deaths
and shows very obvious actions to achieving that laudable goal,
Tesla seems only to come up with lies and excuses for why it has
keeps failing — killing more and more people.
Re: Tesla's Safety Record vs. Volvo
#3"When I post this chart I often hear Tesla believers complain it doesn’t conform to their bias because it obscures sales volumes. Does it? In fact, it is the opposite. First, volume shouldn’t cause more deaths to start with (remember more cars means more data, which means more safety). Second, Tesla doesn’t have higher volume."
I don't agree with the first part. Volume does matter doesn't it? However the first part is mute if Volvo sold more cars.
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#4"When I post this chart I often hear Tesla believers complain it doesn’t conform to their bias because it obscures sales volumes. Does it? In fact, it is the opposite. First, volume shouldn’t cause more deaths to start with (remember more cars means more data, which means more safety). Second, Tesla doesn’t have higher volume." I don't agree with the first part. Volume does matter doesn't it? However the first part i…
The chart is obviously misleading. More volume would mean fewer deaths PER miles driven, but this is showing absolute numbers of deaths for ONLY electric models. Volvo has many more models besides EVs. The chart would be fair if all models were included, and if it was relative to road usage, eg. deaths per 100k miles driven.
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#5"When I post this chart I often hear Tesla believers complain it doesn’t conform to their bias because it obscures sales volumes. Does it? In fact, it is the opposite. First, volume shouldn’t cause more deaths to start with (remember more cars means more data, which means more safety). Second, Tesla doesn’t have higher volume." I don't agree with the first part. Volume does matter doesn't it? However the first part i…
It’s not moot because had Tesla had greater volume, one might be able to more easily justify the higher number of deaths. However the volume is still relatively smaller and therefore the higher number of deaths is still significant.
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#6"When I post this chart I often hear Tesla believers complain it doesn’t conform to their bias because it obscures sales volumes. Does it? In fact, it is the opposite. First, volume shouldn’t cause more deaths to start with (remember more cars means more data, which means more safety). Second, Tesla doesn’t have higher volume." I don't agree with the first part. Volume does matter doesn't it? However the first part i…
This person is clearly deluded. The correct metric is fatal accident per 100k miles driven and OF COURSE volume matters.
Re: Tesla's Safety Record vs. Volvo
#7"When I post this chart I often hear Tesla believers complain it doesn’t conform to their bias because it obscures sales volumes. Does it? In fact, it is the opposite. First, volume shouldn’t cause more deaths to start with (remember more cars means more data, which means more safety). Second, Tesla doesn’t have higher volume." I don't agree with the first part. Volume does matter doesn't it? However the first part i…
I don't disagree. But it's a moot, not a mute, point.
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#8"When I post this chart I often hear Tesla believers complain it doesn’t conform to their bias because it obscures sales volumes. Does it? In fact, it is the opposite. First, volume shouldn’t cause more deaths to start with (remember more cars means more data, which means more safety). Second, Tesla doesn’t have higher volume." I don't agree with the first part. Volume does matter doesn't it? However the first part i…
The chart is obviously misleading. More volume would mean fewer deaths PER miles driven, but this is showing absolute numbers of deaths for ONLY electric models. Volvo has many more models besides EVs. The chart would be fair if all models were included, and if it was relative to road usage, eg. deaths per 100k miles driven.
there are direct model to model comparisons with sales numbers in the article.
And other manufactures ev sales numbers do not seem to to be off by a factor of 100 too 200 compared to tesla
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#9This article presents several logical fallacies in their analysis which all seem to favor Volvo.
Re: Tesla's Safety Record vs. Volvo
#10Regardless of the truth behind it, this is bogus statistics at its best:
“Look at the following table showing this year of high sales volumes for electric cars next to total deaths by model”
You can’t compare single year sales to total deaths by model. You’ve got cars on that chart that have only been for sale for a single year, and one that has been available for a decade.
10 years of sales and 10 years of miles driven would be expected to have more deaths than 1 year of sales… and that’s before you account for a decade’s worth of potential improvements.
The only way to show a true correlation would be a year by year breakdown of miles driven vs deaths.