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U.S. eliminates human controls requirement for fully automated vehicles

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Re: U.S. eliminates human controls requirement for fully automated vehicles

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I think any automated vehicle, no matter how advanced, should always have a big red button to make it stop whatever it's doing. Kind of like the emergency brake on a passenger train.

You mean like machinery in factories? Sounds like a revolutionary idea!

Re: U.S. eliminates human controls requirement for fully automated vehicles

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post #4

I think any automated vehicle, no matter how advanced, should always have a big red button to make it stop whatever it's doing. Kind of like the emergency brake on a passenger train.

You mean like machinery in factories? Sounds like a revolutionary idea!

that would be two hands on the wheel and pulled them away stops the device.

https://www.google.com/search?q=machinery+two+hand+control

Re: U.S. eliminates human controls requirement for fully automated vehicles

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Look, I'm generally on the bull-ish side of autonomous driving, but this is almost akin to the feds passing laws on science fiction. Section 180.99 part alpha: "Minimum size of a Ringworld is mercury orbit around a red dwarf"

I guess we can always drive with a USB-plugin gamepad if there's a glitch or a central system outage?

This would actually represent progress if they eliminated the requirement for side mirrors, which from what I've read of good aerodynamic designs is responsible for as much drag as the body of the car.

Re: U.S. eliminates human controls requirement for fully automated vehicles

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Reading between the lines here this just makes me think that the regulator has become captured by the industry.

This is like removing human control on an autonomous Russian roulette revolver that shoots to the side if it detects a person in front of the barrel, then praying for the best.

Re: U.S. eliminates human controls requirement for fully automated vehicles

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No steering wheels or brake pedals! Feels scary but we are giving technology way more control over our lives already :-).

The usecase of minibuses with a joystick for command and a red emergency button is legit. We have this in France, not only for airports.

Re: U.S. eliminates human controls requirement for fully automated vehicles

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What's going to be the rate of 'acceptable loss'? There's an obvious point on the cost curve where companies will begin pushing for driverless tech before the problem is fully solved. Without some standardized 'miles between intervention' requirement that accounts for the externality on innocent bystanders, the emergent behavior will be to remove the human in the loop before the societally optimal point. If I save $100M in staffing costs by firing all my human monitors and only incur $10M in payouts to the people my cars run over, the capitalist choice is clear.
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