Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission
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#2The number of warcrimes committed by the Russians is astounding. But shooting at fleeing civilians has to earn you a very special place in hell.
This is pure blackmail, and it won't stop here.
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#3This seems likely, but I have a hard time thinking of what to do about it.
I’m long past the point where I’d be fine calling their bluff, but the same thing does not seem to be true for our elected leaders (probably why I’m not one of those).
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#5It's so incredibly sad to see this playing out exactly as many predicted and being unable to stop it (due to the threat of nuclear war). It's like standing on a train track and seeing an oncoming train miles away and yet being unable to move. So many (more) Ukrainians are about to die or suffer horribly, and much of the physical history and cultural artifacts of that city will be destroyed.
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#6The number of warcrimes committed by the Russians is astounding. But shooting at fleeing civilians has to earn you a very special place in hell. This is pure blackmail, and it won't stop here.
They did it previously, in Chechnya, in Debaltsevo. No one did anything, besides "seriously concerned of reports".
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#7But the leafleting campaign has been going so well!
This is what modern non-nuclear war looks like: hammer on cities until there's nothing left in the hope of defeating the enemy public opinion.
The only thing you can hope to do is counter-battery artillery or airstrikes, but both of those are vulnerable to shelling and airstrikes and one requires flying into enemy territory.
Re: Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission
#8The number of warcrimes committed by the Russians is astounding. But shooting at fleeing civilians has to earn you a very special place in hell. This is pure blackmail, and it won't stop here.
It’s reprehensible for sure, but I’m fairly confident it’s not all that uncommon in war.
It’s just the first time in history that the whole world sees the horrors of war streamed live.
Which is a good thing I guess, there’s a whole new generation now that might learn ‘never again’ without actually having to go through the experience.
Edit: Of course we always had the news, but a reporter showing the aftereffects from a safe distance are a bit different from the single soldier streaming the images of the Russian warship before telling them to go fuck themselves.
Re: Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission
#9This seems likely, but I have a hard time thinking of what to do about it. I’m long past the point where I’d be fine calling their bluff, but the same thing does not seem to be true for our elected leaders (probably why I’m not one of those).
We could have put troops in the country before the invasion.
Re: Putin may be planning to pummel Kyiv into submission
#10But the leafleting campaign has been going so well! This is what modern non-nuclear war looks like: hammer on cities until there's nothing left in the hope of defeating the enemy public opinion. The only thing you can hope to do is counter-battery artillery or airstrikes, but both of those are vulnerable to shelling and airstrikes and one requires flying into enemy territory.
Nuclear weapons are in play. If not for that the Russians would have to face the rest of Europe and possibly other countries as well.