SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO
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Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO
#2Good, we need more players, not less.
Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO
#3>ARM to IPO
I'll be looking to pick up some shares as a long-term investment. I think ARM is one of the best things to happen to computing, and anything that threatens the x86 monoculture/hegemony is a good thing in my view.
Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO
#4Good, we need more players, not less.
I didn't like much this but having ARM in the hands of financial institution which doesn't have any motivation to invest in the technology doesn't seem any better (and probably doesnt understand/doesnt care about it). In the other hand, Nvidia have a good track record creating good products.
Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO
#5Good, we need more players, not less.
I didn't like much this but having ARM in the hands of financial institution which doesn't have any motivation to invest in the technology doesn't seem any better (and probably doesnt understand/doesnt care about it). In the other hand, Nvidia have a good track record creating good products.
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Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO
#7Good, we need more players, not less.
I didn't like much this but having ARM in the hands of financial institution which doesn't have any motivation to invest in the technology doesn't seem any better (and probably doesnt understand/doesnt care about it). In the other hand, Nvidia have a good track record creating good products.
NVidia has a track record of creating good products, but all proprietary and with closed source firmware/drivers. And lots of arbitrarily software locking features to extract more money from different market segments.
Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO
#8Good, we need more players, not less.
I didn't like much this but having ARM in the hands of financial institution which doesn't have any motivation to invest in the technology doesn't seem any better (and probably doesnt understand/doesnt care about it). In the other hand, Nvidia have a good track record creating good products.
> Nvidia have a good track record creating good products.
What incentive would Nvidia have to develop new ARM features that would assist competitors in competing with them?
The Fujitsu's A64FX Processor for example somewhat competes with Nvidia datacenter GPUs. What incentive would Nvidia have to continue to develop the Arm Scalable Vector Extension?
The only good thing from this sale would be the pivot to RISC-V.
Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO
#9Why will ARM succeed where MIPS faded into obscurity? (Well, relative obscurity. I see they are still used in media devices and cheap routers.)
Re: SoftBank's Sale of Arm to Nvidia Collapses, Arm to IPO
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I didn't like much this but having ARM in the hands of financial institution which doesn't have any motivation to invest in the technology doesn't seem any better (and probably doesnt understand/doesnt care about it). In the other hand, Nvidia have a good track record creating good products.
NVidia has a track record of creating good products, but all proprietary and with closed source firmware/drivers. And lots of arbitrarily software locking features to extract more money from different market segments.
> And lots of arbitrarily software locking features to extract more money from different market segments.
This is the cultural difference between ARM and Nvidia.
ARM does care enough about their IP that you'll need to pay them for ARM's effort to develop their IP, but beyond that they will not restrict you unless it'll put ARM into legal trouble (basically export restrictions). Hey, you could get everything now with a one-time license payment if you are willing to do that. It's not FSF open, but it's certainly better than a lot of hardware companies.
Nvidia is trying to extract everything into each pipeline. You want to use their hardware? You have to agree to only use this to precise conditions that is purely for market segmentation, which conflicts with ARM's culture. Compounding this with the fact that almost all acquisitions done by Nvidia that was more open was closed down (try talking to Nvidia about Mellanox), if the ARM acquisition proceeded, it'll be a bad day for everyone else.