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How trust undermines science

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Re: How trust undermines science

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We should respect people questioning science as long as they are doing it in good faith and are showing willingness to learn. We should even respect flat earthers and climate change deniers. They improve rigour and identify blindspots.

Re: How trust undermines science

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We should respect people questioning science as long as they are doing it in good faith and are showing willingness to learn. We should even respect flat earthers and climate change deniers. They improve rigour and identify blindspots.

> We should even respect flat earthers

You lost me here. Basic literacy is a requirement for any fruitful debate

Re: How trust undermines science

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post #6

We should respect people questioning science as long as they are doing it in good faith and are showing willingness to learn. We should even respect flat earthers and climate change deniers. They improve rigour and identify blindspots.

> We should even respect flat earthers You lost me here. Basic literacy is a requirement for any fruitful debate

Literacy does not imply believing in the round earth. Proving the earth is round to yourself without trusting outside influences is not a trivial pursuit.

Re: How trust undermines science

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Is it a matter of "trust" or a matter of misaligned interests & incentives?

Person A approves Person B's manuscript/grant/etc. They do it because it's good for them and their careers, not because it's "good for science" (whatever that means nowadays).

Re: How trust undermines science

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We should respect people questioning science as long as they are doing it in good faith and are showing willingness to learn. We should even respect flat earthers and climate change deniers. They improve rigour and identify blindspots.

Maybe, but many times media groups take advantage of this to create a false balance: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance

Re: How trust undermines science

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post #6

We should respect people questioning science as long as they are doing it in good faith and are showing willingness to learn. We should even respect flat earthers and climate change deniers. They improve rigour and identify blindspots.

> We should even respect flat earthers You lost me here. Basic literacy is a requirement for any fruitful debate

It's an interesting thought exercise to take some belief and ask yourself how you know, and asking until you get to some first principles or axioms or articles of faith. Part of that exercise could include coming up with plausible alternate explanations for what you perceive.

Flat earth is just a ridiculous version of such a thought experiment. It's a good exercise to make sure your understanding of the world around you is based on some consistent logic and not faith. Those who reject the idea of the earth being flat just because "science tells us" have no intellectual high ground over devout flat earthers, if they exist

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