You Can't Buy Integration
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You Can't Buy Integration
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Re: You Can't Buy Integration
#2I have always suspected this to be the case, but it is great to see it confirmed and well-explained in detail by an almost-authority in our field.
I wonder if in the near future we'll see a similar article regarding security - "You Can't Buy Security".
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#3Really great read. Long but worth it.
This is a good critique of low-code/no-code in general. The root problem I see of "Unfortunately, when we frame the problem space that way, we have allowed our tools to think for us." is that in reality there are just not enough qualified software engineers out there.
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#4You Can't Buy Understanding of Your Problems
You Can't Buy Someone Else Caring about Your Problems
It seems like you can hire experts to understand and consultants to care about your problems, but someone has to bring the intent and to close the loop.
Re: You Can't Buy Integration
#5I have always suspected this to be the case, but it is great to see it confirmed and well-explained in detail by an almost-authority in our field. I wonder if in the near future we'll see a similar article regarding security - "You Can't Buy Security".
Wow, didn't expect to read something as condescending as calling Martin Fowler an "almost-authority" in this thread...
Re: You Can't Buy Integration
#6Really great read. Long but worth it. This is a good critique of low-code/no-code in general. The root problem I see of "Unfortunately, when we frame the problem space that way, we have allowed our tools to think for us." is that in reality there are just not enough qualified software engineers out there.
The article isn't finished yet (see the footer)... so it'll be a longer read
Re: You Can't Buy Integration
#7Really great read. Long but worth it. This is a good critique of low-code/no-code in general. The root problem I see of "Unfortunately, when we frame the problem space that way, we have allowed our tools to think for us." is that in reality there are just not enough qualified software engineers out there.
I got bounced off a front-end job once, for not being good enough at React.
Mind you I've been building SPA's since they weren't "a thing" and today I mostly use Vue.
But for that role, they didn't like my lack of .env variables in the front-end (such as for things that end up in the HTML), after a 3 hours coding test, and a couple of minor React-y tid bits they couldn't even clarify. Basically, not "idiomatic".
Meanwhile, none of them could tell me how React actually works, beyond throwing jargon vomit. They couldn't write a web application without React. The recruiter, which we had to go through, basically had no empathy and saw me as a failed resume. I felt pretty helpless, even though I've said many times to both parties that I wasn't a "React developer".
That is the sad state of affairs today; and I'm finding it's not just in the front-end, where you could argue that you need sanity on this pile of rubbles. It's also in the backend, especially on the auto-magic "DevOps!"
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#8Fowler doesn't ship. When you read his articles, especially when they make you feel like you know something others (especially those awful management types) don't, remember that he hasn't made anything.
He is a software life coach.
Re: You Can't Buy Integration
#9It is a weird article. Fowler obviously knows a lot about integration, but since his business is about writing software he tries to discredit "low code tools", so that more people use his services. I think that those tools are great for exactly the reasons indirectly stated in the article - they take the mind off the implementation and let you focus on bigger picture. I was involved in tons of integration project and they were always 90+% about communication: agreeing on interfaces. The actual implementation is almost always trivial, with tools like TIBCO or MuleSoft you can sometimes do it in 15-30 minutes (for simple flows, the more complex ones can take up to 3 days).
Re: You Can't Buy Integration
#10I have always suspected this to be the case, but it is great to see it confirmed and well-explained in detail by an almost-authority in our field. I wonder if in the near future we'll see a similar article regarding security - "You Can't Buy Security".
Wow, didn't expect to read something as condescending as calling Martin Fowler an "almost-authority" in this thread...
While it's Martin's blog, most posts these days are by other people.. this particular one is by "Brandon Byars"