Frame Control
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Frame Control
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#2This appears to be an example of weaponized generalization. The examples of what frame control looks like and doesn't look like are broad to the point of meaning anything you want them to mean, OR, lack any sense of boundaries.
The author says everyone exercises frame control all the time, including themselves, and doesn't know what to do about it. In another sentence says their reaction when encountering it is to 'burn it with fire'. It ends with telling people to rely on their feelings.
Convoluted, conflicted, generalized, and entitled. Everything I don't like.
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#3This feels like a good description of narcissistic behaviour, at least from my personal experience. Not sure if there's an existing term in psychology for it since it's not quite gaslighting, but I do like frame control as a term.
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#4Science: Sun rises in the east
A: Sun rises in the west
B: Here is some evidence that sun rises in the east (recommendation) (or) You're insane for not believing in that (pressure?)
Is B trying to use components of frame control to take over A's reality?
IMO the article feels very convoluted
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#5I feel OP's definition needs to be narrowed down a bit. Debating climate change with someone that denies it is not a matter of opinion. Accepting that the sky is blue doesn't mean that I jumped into the other person's frame or I inherited their belief system. It just means I learnt a new fact.
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#6This feels like a good description of narcissistic behaviour, at least from my personal experience. Not sure if there's an existing term in psychology for it since it's not quite gaslighting, but I do like frame control as a term.
any term would be better than "gaslighting" for people who have not seen the movie it alludes to, perhaps.
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#7Have an NPD dad and this rings a lot of bells. In addition to what's written here, it's helpful to study that disorder to better navigate the idea of frame control (NPDs carefully tailor reality in this way). A good starting point is Dr. Les Carter on YouTube if you're unfamiliar with the disorder.
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#8This feels like a good description of narcissistic behaviour, at least from my personal experience. Not sure if there's an existing term in psychology for it since it's not quite gaslighting, but I do like frame control as a term.
any term would be better than "gaslighting" for people who have not seen the movie it alludes to, perhaps.
True that.
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#9Have an NPD dad and this rings a lot of bells. In addition to what's written here, it's helpful to study that disorder to better navigate the idea of frame control (NPDs carefully tailor reality in this way). A good starting point is Dr. Les Carter on YouTube if you're unfamiliar with the disorder.
Yeah, I felt exactly the same way. The intro made me go "oh wow, there are other people with that experience too". I kept reading, but decided I needed to stop and come back to it later when I'm in a different frame of mind. This could spin me out for the day.
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#10I believe the article is an example of overthinking.
If you think so much about an issue without the right data you will get wrong conclusions. In other words, garbage in, garbage out, no matter how smart(how good your processing unit is) you are. This woman looks intellectually smart, emotionally dumb and immature.
This woman had a pathological relationship and generalizes over it. She is projecting that relationship over everyone, and that is a serious mistake.
In spite of being an adult woman she has a "victim mentality" and a tendency to create a "self fulfilling prophecy" because healthy people will avoid her like the plague.
People that had a healthy relationship with their parents or people in general does not want or need to deal with people that consider every one else an abuser, just because they were abused by someone.
If your father rapes you your mind will associate all men as rapists because he is the most important man in your life. But that is wrong.
If your parents are enemies inside marriage with a terrible relationship you will generalize all marriages as bad because it it the marriage that you know better. But that is wrong.
The way to deal with long lasting traumas is working on it emotionally, not rationally and usually over a long time too until you can make progress.