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Toyota Forms ‘Team Japan’ to Help Keep Combustion Engine Alive

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Re: Toyota Forms ‘Team Japan’ to Help Keep Combustion Engine Alive

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Still doing the wrong thing. Biofuels are environmentally destructive, both where the biomass is grown (soil loss, runoff eutrophication, pesticide use, biodiversity loss) and where they are used (nitrous oxides, PM2.5, larger particles, noise, waste heat, spills, etc).

Re: Toyota Forms ‘Team Japan’ to Help Keep Combustion Engine Alive

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Toyota is dead and a good short.

Toyota is probably on the wrong side of this tech, but it's still a bad short. They can survive a decade or two off of install base and reputation alone, and hybrid tech is still a better proposition for many people until batteries improve. (EV's still have relatively short range per full charge, long charging cycles, and battery range plummets in cold climates.)

With the "Prime" models, Toyota should be able to pivot to an all EV car pretty easily if they needed to.

Re: Toyota Forms ‘Team Japan’ to Help Keep Combustion Engine Alive

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What’s the thinking behind it? What is the real advantage to Toyota pushing petrol? Do they think they’ll be raking in money when they’re the last petrol engine cars you can get?

It works. Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do.

Maybe they'll get there but there's gonna need to be some massive advances in batteries to be able to go off-road and pull loads like any of those current trucks can.

Re: Toyota Forms ‘Team Japan’ to Help Keep Combustion Engine Alive

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What’s the thinking behind it? What is the real advantage to Toyota pushing petrol? Do they think they’ll be raking in money when they’re the last petrol engine cars you can get?

It works. Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do. Maybe they'll get there but there's gonna need to be some massive advances in batteries to be able to go off-road and pull loads like any of those current trucks can.

> Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do.

Weird examples - isn't EV actually uniquely well-suited to off-road and towing? Maximum torque at zero-revs?

I can't wait to swap my Defender for a full electric variant when Land Rover manage to ship it - partly for the better capability.

Re: Toyota Forms ‘Team Japan’ to Help Keep Combustion Engine Alive

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It works. Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do. Maybe they'll get there but there's gonna need to be some massive advances in batteries to be able to go off-road and pull loads like any of those current trucks can.

> Show me an EV truck that comes anywhere close to what a Tacoma, Tundra or 4runner can do. Weird examples - isn't EV actually uniquely well-suited to off-road and towing? Maximum torque at zero-revs? I can't wait to swap my Defender for a full electric variant when Land Rover manage to ship it - partly for the better capability.

Aside from the weight of batteries in a long distance EV setup, having 4+ wheels with their own independent motors allow EV offroaders an extreme advantage if someone made a purpose built EV 4x4 / 6x6.
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