Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#1

Post by minimaxir » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:05 PM UTC

Making the dislike count private across YouTube
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Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#2

Post by Covzire » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

First it was the complete corporate takeover of their search algorithm in the last few years, now they're removing the final way that users can express displeasure from political organizations and content creators.

This is yet another nail in the coffin of Youtube, it's almost ready to go into the ground as Rumble and Odysee take off and Youtube slides into corporate/censorious irrelevance.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#3

Post by 0des » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:34 PM UTC

Covzire wrote: post #2

First it was the complete corporate takeover of their search algorithm in the last few years, now they're removing the final way that users can express displeasure from political organizations and content creators. This is yet another nail in the coffin of Youtube, it's almost ready to go into the ground as Rumble and Odysee take off and Youtube slides into corporate/censorious irrelevance.

Im curious if this has anything to do with the mountain of dislikes on anything COVID or US presidency related content.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by qwertox » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:35 PM UTC

Hmm. For me the dislike button was informative. If feels like they are trying to create a world where everything can only be good, better, even more better, which just doesn't represent reality.

Imagine Stack Overflow only having the option to upvote Questions and Answers. The ratio of likes vs dislikes of a TED talk does help me to decide if I should stop watching a video which just isn't getting better.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by 0xFreebie » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:35 PM UTC

A loose remaining proxy will be the ratio of like count to view count. Perhaps one of those will be axed next. I don't understand why complaining creators don't just turn off voting.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by 1MachineElf » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:36 PM UTC

0des wrote: post #3

Covzire wrote: post #2

First it was the complete corporate takeover of their search algorithm in the last few years, now they're removing the final way that users can express displeasure from political organizations and content creators. This is yet another nail in the coffin of Youtube, it's almost ready to go into the ground as Rumble and Odysee take off and Youtube slides into corporate/censorious irrelevance.

Im curious if this has anything to do with the mountain of dislikes on anything COVID or US presidency related content.

I also wonder if it has to do with the notorious Win11 announcement video: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Damage-control-Microsoft-delet...

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

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Post by hammock » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:36 PM UTC

0des wrote: post #3

Covzire wrote: post #2

First it was the complete corporate takeover of their search algorithm in the last few years, now they're removing the final way that users can express displeasure from political organizations and content creators. This is yet another nail in the coffin of Youtube, it's almost ready to go into the ground as Rumble and Odysee take off and Youtube slides into corporate/censorious irrelevance.

Im curious if this has anything to do with the mountain of dislikes on anything COVID or US presidency related content.

There has been no clear evidence showing that to be the case, and an independent factchecker concluded that was misinformation. Please refer to youtube.com/help for the most accurate updates.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#8

Post by post_break » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:36 PM UTC

So now I can't quickly see if a video how-to is a complete waste of my time or not. Great.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#9

Post by butler14 » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:36 PM UTC

This isn’t about small content creators. It’s almost certainly about big brands (advertisers) that hate it when their high budget movie/game/trailer/whatever gets publicly downvoted.

Re: Making the dislike count private across YouTube

#10

Post by shalmanese » Wed, Nov 10, 2021, 5:37 PM UTC

This feels like one of those changes where they already decided to do it and used an experiment to justify their decision. The binary choice between showing only raw dislikes or no dislikes as well tilts the table towards an extreme change.

There's lots of interesting design choices they could have made of not encouraging dislike storms while still giving valuable info to viewers like highlighting if any video has an unusually high dislike to like ratio or attaching comments to dislikes and highlighting highly upvoted reasons why certain people are choosing to dislike a video etc.