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A look at power on the new M1 Max

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Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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No matter whether you're a fan of ARM, amd64, or something else, this helps everyone. The leaps that Intel, AMD and NVIDIA will have to take to even just stay in the same range as Apple will help everyone. Competition is good!

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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No matter whether you're a fan of ARM, amd64, or something else, this helps everyone. The leaps that Intel, AMD and NVIDIA will have to take to even just stay in the same range as Apple will help everyone. Competition is good!

Yes. Until Intel, AMD, and NVidia start their own walled gardens.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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Max Tech just posted a video comparing power consumption of the M1 Max in the 14" and 16": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XY_Utsmfvw In some intensive tests the 14" gets ~10% lower performance because the GPU clocks down.

In the future the 16" is supposed to get a high power mode enabled for when plugged in. Should be interesting.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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Max Tech just posted a video comparing power consumption of the M1 Max in the 14" and 16": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XY_Utsmfvw In some intensive tests the 14" gets ~10% lower performance because the GPU clocks down.

In the future the 16" is supposed to get a high power mode enabled for when plugged in. Should be interesting.

The video also tests high power mode.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the future the 16" is supposed to get a high power mode enabled for when plugged in. Should be interesting.

The video also tests high power mode.

Oh, I thought there was something coming in a future release. Cool.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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No matter whether you're a fan of ARM, amd64, or something else, this helps everyone. The leaps that Intel, AMD and NVIDIA will have to take to even just stay in the same range as Apple will help everyone. Competition is good!

Yes. Until Intel, AMD, and NVidia start their own walled gardens.

They’re all already there, to a certain extent. Intel with their opaque Management Engine, AMD with their PSP, and Nvidia with their refusal to contribute to open source or enable the development of open source Linux drivers without resorting to reverse-engineering.

The biggest difference is that Apple owns the entire device and software stack. Everyone else is walled to a certain degree. To me, the distinction doesn’t exist.

Re: A look at power on the new M1 Max

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No matter whether you're a fan of ARM, amd64, or something else, this helps everyone. The leaps that Intel, AMD and NVIDIA will have to take to even just stay in the same range as Apple will help everyone. Competition is good!

Yes. Until Intel, AMD, and NVidia start their own walled gardens.

Regarding Apple’s walled garden in macOS, I think this explanation from Asahi Linux sums the situation up to a good extent:

> The line on Apple Silicon Macs is when the alternate kernel image is booted, while SEP firmware remains closed - which is quite similar to the line on standard PCs, where the UEFI firmware boots the OS loader, while the ME/PSP firmware remains closed. In fact, mainstream x86 platforms are arguably more intrusive because the proprietary UEFI firmware is allowed to steal the main CPU from the OS at any time via SMM interrupts, which is not the case on Apple Silicon Macs.

https://asahilinux.org/about/

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