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Pope Francis and Other Christian Leaders Are Calling for Bold Climate Action

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Re: Pope Francis and Other Christian Leaders Are Calling for Bold Climate Action

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I'm not sure how valuable this is really. Most people, I assume, would wholeheartedly agree but since the CC culprits are not 'Christians who cause climate change', then the pope or Archbishop saying what loads of other people are saying is neither surprising nor worth it.

Personally, I would like to see practical ways of acually reducing fossil fuel demands but this is much harder for the church, except in their own properties, and easier for governments.

Re: Pope Francis and Other Christian Leaders Are Calling for Bold Climate Action

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Cool, maybe these Christian leaders will finally be accepting of voluntary birth control as a wise form of choosing life — e.g., by acting as a steward of nature and reducing poverty?

(Ok, well, even if not, the gesture in support of environmental justice is appreciated)

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Cool, maybe these Christian leaders will finally be accepting of voluntary birth control as a wise form of choosing life — e.g., by acting as a steward of nature and reducing poverty? (Ok, well, even if not, the gesture in support of environmental justice is appreciated)

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

Re: Pope Francis and Other Christian Leaders Are Calling for Bold Climate Action

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I'm not sure how valuable this is really. Most people, I assume, would wholeheartedly agree but since the CC culprits are not 'Christians who cause climate change', then the pope or Archbishop saying what loads of other people are saying is neither surprising nor worth it. Personally, I would like to see practical ways of acually reducing fossil fuel demands but this is much harder for the church, except in their own…

There's still a substantial portion of customers who are Christians though.

And various religious movements have had their moments of realizing economic change by educating and motivating their adherents to demand it. (E.g. racial equality boycotts)

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Cool, maybe these Christian leaders will finally be accepting of voluntary birth control as a wise form of choosing life — e.g., by acting as a steward of nature and reducing poverty? (Ok, well, even if not, the gesture in support of environmental justice is appreciated)

The perfect is the enemy of the good.

And the somewhat okay is the enemy of the very bad?

Re: Pope Francis and Other Christian Leaders Are Calling for Bold Climate Action

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Cool, maybe these Christian leaders will finally be accepting of voluntary birth control as a wise form of choosing life — e.g., by acting as a steward of nature and reducing poverty? (Ok, well, even if not, the gesture in support of environmental justice is appreciated)

Thus is the curse of being a religion. You do one thing that general society helps. And then they just criticize another piece of your belief system.

There's no system that will perfectly allow people to both find value and meaning in their world AND also promote totally free action of others.

Thus we live in a contemporary world of non-religious people seeking out value (look at the current obsession in Silicon Valley with Stoicism, mindfulness, pyschadelics, etc). But Silicon Valley also tells their people that they can't use those methods to find an actual belief system of values. It's like, definitely always look for meaning and value in the universe, we like that. But, don't find it and a be bold about it.

Catholics are against birth control because we're for a world in which human life is nourished, valued, and lifted up within the family. Not that it's seen as a problem to be dealt with. A knock on impact of that mentality is the sex becomes seen as a sacred act of deep value to humanity, an act with profound power and responsibility.

Almost no Catholics suggest that we legally outlaw birth control. We recognize that fundamentally free agency should be left to moral agents (unless it cause a direct moral hazard to others like abortion, theft, dishonesty, etc). But why would we change our view on reproduction and the family? Moreso, birth control doesn't even do that great of a job at slower birth rates in developing nations.

Re: Pope Francis and Other Christian Leaders Are Calling for Bold Climate Action

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I'm not sure how valuable this is really. Most people, I assume, would wholeheartedly agree but since the CC culprits are not 'Christians who cause climate change', then the pope or Archbishop saying what loads of other people are saying is neither surprising nor worth it. Personally, I would like to see practical ways of acually reducing fossil fuel demands but this is much harder for the church, except in their own…

Do you believe anything the CC says is surprising and worth it?
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