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Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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> On Friday, sources confirmed on background that at least one of the U.S.-based companies implementing the restriction felt compelled to comply for fear that local staff could face legal action upon receipt of a takedown order from the Russian Federation.

Really making the world a better place. How hard would it be to have employees from outside the country make the app review, and shield local employees from this? These companies do what they want to do, and they didn't think this was a hill worth fighting for, which is sad.

Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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telegram also removed bots from Navalny team which you could ask what non-ruling-party candidate has most chances to win, to facilitate "protest", tactical vote, much the same as the app would do. Telegram CEO cited some nonsense about "silent days" (why would he had obey them?) which are not even a thing with current 3-day voting in Russia. Many people agree Durov just got threaten that telegram app would be yanked from appstores, just like navalniy's app.

Huge win of the current government in their intimidation tactics.

Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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Apple is in no position whatsoever to fight governments.

The amount of money and power they wield in the market and society is huge, but it doesn't even rank in competition to the power of the state. (For scale, the US, just a single country, has spent, only on the military, 4.3x the entire market cap of Apple ($2410B) since the iPhone was introduced.)

They have to do whatever the CCP tells them to do, as they are completely, inescapably beholden to the millions of people near the factories that produce 100% of the iPhones and iPads ever that hold machine guns (the PLA). Apple cannot exist without the consent and cooperation of the CCP; they will ban any emoji, text message content, camera content, VPN app, or protest coordination app that they are told to.)

(Yes, the 100% is slight hyperbole - Apple has started assembling a relatively small number of iOS devices in other places, but my point stands.)

Same goes for any large market, like Russia or the USA. If the state comes knocking, Apple and Google do not have a choice.

Even their options for public resistance are limited.

Remember, corporations are only allowed to exist or engage in trade with the consent of the state.

Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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I'm pretty sure if this would be in Nazi Germany then Apple and Google would supply locations of the Jews. Because it was "illegal" not to.

We are years away from the global fascists superpowers (with mass surveillance, AI, nuclear and bio weapons), but no one seems to care. Let's feed the beast even more.

Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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> I can't see the option to add a country

> You may not see this option if: You've changed your country within the last year.

> You aren’t currently in a new country.

> How does Google know my location?

> Depending on the products that you’re using and the settings that you choose, you may provide Google with different types of location information that are critical to making some services work and making others more useful for you. Location can come from real-time signals, like your IP address or device location, and also your past activity on Google sites and services, to tailor experiences for your context. Below are the primary ways we may get information about your location.

Never, never, never ever enable the GLS, and emergency location service (read the disclaimer, it's the same GLS)

If you never had GLS enabled, the only way Google can guess your location is your IP.

There is no opt out later in account setting to remove GLS info forever.

This is how they detect proxy users for Geoblocks

Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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post #4

telegram also removed bots from Navalny team which you could ask what non-ruling-party candidate has most chances to win, to facilitate "protest", tactical vote, much the same as the app would do. Telegram CEO cited some nonsense about "silent days" (why would he had obey them?) which are not even a thing with current 3-day voting in Russia. Many people agree Durov just got threaten that telegram app would be yanked…

“Silent days” are still a thing. The new bit is that the day before the election is not included, only the election days themselves. This prohibition makes sense to me.

My personal opinion is that telegram’s actions are reasonable in this context.

Navalny’s team fucked up by publishing their recommendations only on the 15th, two days before voting. I don’t understand that decision at all.

Re: Russia restricts opposition election voting app

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post #4

telegram also removed bots from Navalny team which you could ask what non-ruling-party candidate has most chances to win, to facilitate "protest", tactical vote, much the same as the app would do. Telegram CEO cited some nonsense about "silent days" (why would he had obey them?) which are not even a thing with current 3-day voting in Russia. Many people agree Durov just got threaten that telegram app would be yanked…

There is a theory that Telegram is a Russian op, given that they still having office in Russia, which they are very secretive about, despite the claims of Durov being nearly chased by KGB on every corner.
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