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Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#1
Hello HN,

Over the last year we've been building ente[1], a privacy-friendly, easy-to-use alternative to Google Photos. We've so far built Android[2][3], iOS[4], web[5] apps that encrypt your files and back them up in the background. You can access these across your devices, and share them with other ente users, end-to-end encrypted. You can also use our electron app[6] to maintain a local copy of your backed up files.

We've built a fault-tolerant data replication layer that replicates your data to two different storage providers in the EU. We will be providing additional replicas as an addon in the future.

We're relying on libsodium[7] for performing all cryptographic operations. Under the hood it uses XChaCha20 and XSalsa20 for encryption and Argon2 for key derivation.

We have documented our architecture[8] and open-sourced our clients[9].

We did a soft-launch on r/degoogle[10] sometime ago, and have since then ironed out issues and polished the product.

But we are far from where we want to be in terms of features (object and face detection, location clustering, image filters, ...) and user experience. We are hoping to use this post as an opportunity to collect feedback from fellow hackers.

If there's anything we can do better, please let us know, we would like to.

Best,

- Vishnu, Neeraj, Abhinav

[1]: https://ente.io

[2]: https://ente.io/apk

[3]: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.ente.photos

[4]: https://apps.apple.com/in/app/ente-photos/id1542026904

[5]: https://web.ente.io

[6]: https://github.com/ente-io/bhari-frame/releases/latest

[7]: https://libsodium.gitbook.io

[8]: https://ente.io/architecture

[9]: https://github.com/ente-io

[10]: https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/njatok/we_built_a...

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#2
Clickable links!

[1]: https://ente.io

[2]: https://ente.io/apk

[3]: https://play.google.com/store /apps/details?id=io.ente.photos

[4]: https://apps.apple.com/in/app/ente-photos/id1542026904

[5]: https://web.ente.io

[6]: https://github.com/ente-io/bhari-frame/releases/latest

[7]: https://libsodium.gitbook.io

[8]: https://ente.io/architecture

[9]: https://github.com/ente-io

[10]: https://www.reddit.com/r/degoogle/comments/njatok/we_built_a...

Re: Show HN: We built an end-to-end encrypted alternative to Google Photos

#3
Kudos on your launch! I just had a question: the pricing plans seem slightly pricey, is it to break even before bringing prices down, or is it due to expensive storage? If the latter, is there a self-hosted option?

Also, the website looks absolutely great!

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#5

Kudos on your launch! I just had a question: the pricing plans seem slightly pricey, is it to break even before bringing prices down, or is it due to expensive storage? If the latter, is there a self-hosted option? Also, the website looks absolutely great!

yes! googol is cheaper and the bottom line matters to lot of people. perhaps this is a good way to ask people whether they'd pay additional 5-10$ for privacy.

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#6

Kudos on your launch! I just had a question: the pricing plans seem slightly pricey, is it to break even before bringing prices down, or is it due to expensive storage? If the latter, is there a self-hosted option? Also, the website looks absolutely great!

Thanks! We're currently focusing on breaking even and becoming self sustaining. With scale we're hopeful that we'll be able to reduce the prices.

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#10
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V cool service! What metadata do you store btw? Can I use it to store nice dslr pics and later sort by ISO?

On mobile we already include EXIF information in the encrypted-metadata. We will be doing the same on web soon, and will then enable client-side search over that data.
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