The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
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Re: The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
#2Things like this usually come down to incentives. And right now I don’t see how almost any major power’s leaders have any incentive to push an investigation forwards.
We are too dependent on China to piss them off, and so far experience shows we are much more likely to follow their demands than follow our own (Hollywood, NBA, Hong Kong, blizzard, albeit only one of those is geopolitical).
Re: The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
#3Things like this usually come down to incentives. And right now I don’t see how almost any major power’s leaders have any incentive to push an investigation forwards. We are too dependent on China to piss them off, and so far experience shows we are much more likely to follow their demands than follow our own (Hollywood, NBA, Hong Kong, blizzard, albeit only one of those is geopolitical).
All the more reason to piss them off and ween off our addiction to disposable junk and sweatshop priced labor.
Given the impact to the world we all should be asking difficult questions.
Re: The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
#4why does the world need a proper investigation into that? Sometimes it seems to me that it’s just because we want someone to blame. Not because it would actually help anyone.
Re: The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
#5I mean, isn't it yet obvious where it came from? 1 + 1 = ?
We're just too interwoven with that human rights violating, genocidal communist dictatorship to speak up about it.
Re: The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
#6why does the world need a proper investigation into that? Sometimes it seems to me that it’s just because we want someone to blame. Not because it would actually help anyone.
If there aren’t ever any consequences to making huge mistakes that kill millions of people, what are the incentives in the future to not do it again?
The CCP knowingly hid information about infections. This whole thing could have been contained in China with the right information at the right time. If it was a lab accident that could be avoided in the future too with better protocols.
I’m baffled that after millions have died some people just think we should let this go. Would you let it go if the us government accidentally killed millions of people in a nuke test or a chemical spill or any other accident of the same magnitude?
Re: The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
#7Determining how Covid started would be extremely important imo if there was a chance its release was intentional. But every virologist take I've read suggests that the virus does not look man-made. Nor would it seem that covid's effects and behavior could have possibly been known to any usable degree without the worldwide experiment that we've all been part of the last year and a half. And finally it's really hard to come up with an incentive for intentional release - assuming the suspect is China and not some Bond villain madman.
So we're left with determining if this was a possible accidental release. Which I agree is important. It's just orders of magnitude less important than determining the source of an intentional release, imo. If China accidentally released this, they screwed themselves, very hard. If it was an accidental release, and they know it, one would assume they have a strong incentive to clean up protocols in the future. If the U.S. had accidentally released something like this, they'd certainly try to cover it up, but also try to make sure it never happens again.
Re: The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
#8To find out where it came from, you have to look at conspiracy theories to be honest. There is nothing in the mainstream media even remotely true about its origins.
Re: The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
#9why does the world need a proper investigation into that? Sometimes it seems to me that it’s just because we want someone to blame. Not because it would actually help anyone.
Because if it’s human negligence or malfeasance that created the virus it should be studied on so that we can take better measures in the future. I’d argue that in the latter possibility the people responsible should also be tried for crimes against humanity, both for justice and as a disincentive for future bad actors.
Re: The world needs a proper investigation into how Covid-19 started
#10I mean, isn't it yet obvious where it came from? 1 + 1 = ? We're just too interwoven with that human rights violating, genocidal communist dictatorship to speak up about it.
I think the earliest sample found of C19 was in Barcelona in march 2019(If I remember this well).
1+1=? I would say that you either want to blame someone in particular or Spain is a genocidal communist dictatorship.