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EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

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Re: EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

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I feel list this story keeps on showing up on HN. Does anyone have a link to previous discussion on this topic? Might help avoid endless re-hashes of the same arguments and misinformation.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=fa...

Re: EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

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I feel list this story keeps on showing up on HN. Does anyone have a link to previous discussion on this topic? Might help avoid endless re-hashes of the same arguments and misinformation.

I've come to abhor the term `misinformation`, I know your intent but Twitter/FB has been using it in nafarious ways. Anytime I hear it, it triggers censorship related thoughts for me.

Re: EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

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I feel list this story keeps on showing up on HN. Does anyone have a link to previous discussion on this topic? Might help avoid endless re-hashes of the same arguments and misinformation.

This is a new development, please don't try to suppress news.

Re: EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

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I feel list this story keeps on showing up on HN. Does anyone have a link to previous discussion on this topic? Might help avoid endless re-hashes of the same arguments and misinformation.

You can't stop it. Once a topic becomes popular on HN, any plausibly related submission will instantly garner enough upvotes to put it on the front page. Eventually it will fade somewhat. Same thing happens with Boeing-related topics, for example.

Re: EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

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post #5

I feel list this story keeps on showing up on HN. Does anyone have a link to previous discussion on this topic? Might help avoid endless re-hashes of the same arguments and misinformation.

This is a new development, please don't try to suppress news.

I'm not trying to suppress news.

There have been a ton of letters, calls to action, complaints and outrage about apple's actions.

Many of the conversations are HIGHLY repetitive.

I would strongly urge folks to review past discussions before re-hashing things (again) or focus on new elements.

And these headlines "Global Coalition"? I hope folks realize there is also a "global coalition" of governments that are working to do much more to get access to your information. Australia, China, the EU (yes, go on about GDPR but actual privacy - forget about it), UK etc.

There may also be a "global coalition" of users who like apple's products.

A better headline is EFF writes open letter with 90 other civil liberties groups to Tim Cook?

Edited to list prior topics on HN about this:

Apple's plan to “think different” about encryption opens a backdoor to your life

EFF: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/apples-plan-think-diff... 2260 points|bbatsell|16 days ago|824 comments

Apple Has Opened the Backdoor to Increased Surveillance and Censorship

EFF: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2021/08/if-you-build-it-they-w...

618 points|taxyovio|10 days ago|303 comments

Tell Apple: Don’t Scan Our Phones

EFF: https://act.eff.org/action/tell-apple-don-t-scan-our-phones

161 points|sunrise54|4 days ago|30 comments

Is EFF opposition really new news?

I've also noticed this weird forumulation more often. "Please stop xxxx" rather than an actual discussion of a topic. Ironic to try and suppress a conversation by claiming someone elses comments are suppression?

Re: EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

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post #3

I feel list this story keeps on showing up on HN. Does anyone have a link to previous discussion on this topic? Might help avoid endless re-hashes of the same arguments and misinformation.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastMonth&page=0&prefix=fa...

Wow - 11 stories with tons of upvotes (lots more with fewer).

A fair number are other "open letters" as well.

Helpful.

Re: EFF Joins Global Coalition Asking Apple CEO Tim Cook to Stop Phone-Scanning

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I feel list this story keeps on showing up on HN. Does anyone have a link to previous discussion on this topic? Might help avoid endless re-hashes of the same arguments and misinformation.

I've come to abhor the term `misinformation`, I know your intent but Twitter/FB has been using it in nafarious ways. Anytime I hear it, it triggers censorship related thoughts for me.

I agree! It's been misused to mean things someone doesn't agree with too often :)

In this case we have been gettings tons of claims that what apple doing will see them charged with child porn felonies etc with almost no foundation.

We've also had lots of claims based on a failure to actually read about what apple is doing (ie, will scan all content not just that scheduled for upload to icloud etc).

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