Official Elasticsearch Python library no longer works with open-source forks

I use to be a huge proponent of Elastic.co for search. I paid for their Elastic Cloud Enterprise product to offer an internally hosted Elastic as a Service. We ran a proof of concept with the the open source Elastic Stack before requesting the funding to get commercial support and the extra management features.

I'm not sure I can recommend them anymore. The company doesn't seem to understand their customer's journey and are rejecting the methods that brought them success.

Re: Official Elasticsearch Python library no longer works with open-source forks

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Post by echelon » Sun, Aug 08, 2021, 11:34 PM UTC

thedougd wrote: post #4

I use to be a huge proponent of Elastic.co for search. I paid for their Elastic Cloud Enterprise product to offer an internally hosted Elastic as a Service. We ran a proof of concept with the the open source Elastic Stack before requesting the funding to get commercial support and the extra management features. I'm not sure I can recommend them anymore. The company doesn't seem to understand their customer's journey…

It's hard to blame them when Amazon is eating their lunch.

Well, it's more like they made a sandwich, Amazon stole it, and now Amazon is selling it to other people. Meanwhile Elastic.co is starving.

It's not a fair game anymore.

I hope the DOJ breaks them up into three or more companies.

Re: Official Elasticsearch Python library no longer works with open-source forks

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Post by orf » Sun, Aug 08, 2021, 11:35 PM UTC

What differences cause issues?

Re: Official Elasticsearch Python library no longer works with open-source forks

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Post by toomuchtodo » Sun, Aug 08, 2021, 11:35 PM UTC

thedougd wrote: post #4

I use to be a huge proponent of Elastic.co for search. I paid for their Elastic Cloud Enterprise product to offer an internally hosted Elastic as a Service. We ran a proof of concept with the the open source Elastic Stack before requesting the funding to get commercial support and the extra management features. I'm not sure I can recommend them anymore. The company doesn't seem to understand their customer's journey…

It is easy to judge another’s actions from afar when it’s their meal and roof they’re working for. It’s okay for Amazon (a trillion dollar company) to make money off of their work but not themselves?

Imho, the problem isn’t “well it’s not open source anymore then.” The problem is people who give more weight to a religion/philosophy than sustainability. Who cares if it’s open source if the people developing it can’t support themselves?

Fair code > open source.

https://faircode.io/

Re: Official Elasticsearch Python library no longer works with open-source forks

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Post by atsaloli » Sun, Aug 08, 2021, 11:37 PM UTC

Re: Official Elasticsearch Python library no longer works with open-source forks

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Post by __blockcipher__ » Sun, Aug 08, 2021, 11:37 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #5

thedougd wrote: post #4

I use to be a huge proponent of Elastic.co for search. I paid for their Elastic Cloud Enterprise product to offer an internally hosted Elastic as a Service. We ran a proof of concept with the the open source Elastic Stack before requesting the funding to get commercial support and the extra management features. I'm not sure I can recommend them anymore. The company doesn't seem to understand their customer's journey…

It's hard to blame them when Amazon is eating their lunch. Well, it's more like they made a sandwich, Amazon stole it, and now Amazon is selling it to other people. Meanwhile Elastic.co is starving. It's not a fair game anymore. I hope the DOJ breaks them up into three or more companies.

This is a false narrative. Both Elastic and Amazon are making a killing.

> Elastic (NYSE: ESTC) ("Elastic"), the company behind Elasticsearch and the Elastic Stack, announced strong results for its fourth quarter and full fiscal year (ended April 30, 2021). Total revenue was $177.6 million, an increase of 44% year-over-year, or 39% on a constant currency basis.

Re: Official Elasticsearch Python library no longer works with open-source forks

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Post by zekrioca » Sun, Aug 08, 2021, 11:39 PM UTC

echelon wrote: post #5

thedougd wrote: post #4

I use to be a huge proponent of Elastic.co for search. I paid for their Elastic Cloud Enterprise product to offer an internally hosted Elastic as a Service. We ran a proof of concept with the the open source Elastic Stack before requesting the funding to get commercial support and the extra management features. I'm not sure I can recommend them anymore. The company doesn't seem to understand their customer's journey…

It's hard to blame them when Amazon is eating their lunch. Well, it's more like they made a sandwich, Amazon stole it, and now Amazon is selling it to other people. Meanwhile Elastic.co is starving. It's not a fair game anymore. I hope the DOJ breaks them up into three or more companies.

It is interesting, because Amazon used to claim [1] others would be doing to them exactly what they are doing to others today.

[1] My Conversation with Jeff Bezos (2000) - https://web.archive.org/web/20040215160333/http://www.oreill...