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After DeepMind’s cofounder was placed on leave for bullying, Google promoted him

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Re: After DeepMind’s cofounder was placed on leave for bullying, Google promoted him

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> Google’s reported willingness to put up with Suleyman's behavior stands in stark contrast to its swift termination of Timnit Gebru and Margaret Mitchell, former co-leads of its AI ethics team who produced research that challenged the company’s direction on large language models.

Suleyman is a sociopath who makes Google money - that's why he was promoted and rewarded for his sociopathy.

Re: After DeepMind’s cofounder was placed on leave for bullying, Google promoted him

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This article leaves out why he was promoted. I assume he was promoted despite the discipline, not as a reward.

The article doesn’t research whether he’s reformed or still a bully. Or whether the position is important or not. These are important details.

Maybe the position is BS and doesn’t have much authority. Maybe he’s learned the error of his ways.

Without useful information this article is lame as it seems to link the suspension with the promotion.

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His disagreeability is probably correlated with his track record of innovation and if we cancel every outlier like that our ability to reach new plateaus will lag decades behind than if we only allow nice people to play.

How many incredibly smart people are pushed out of the industry by awful people? By letting jerks run the show, you don't get a chance to see the intelligence of people who these folks suppress.

Re: After DeepMind’s cofounder was placed on leave for bullying, Google promoted him

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post #5

His disagreeability is probably correlated with his track record of innovation and if we cancel every outlier like that our ability to reach new plateaus will lag decades behind than if we only allow nice people to play.

How machiavellian of you... I think the world has moved on from the days of letting visionaries like Job's rant and rave and yell and scream to "bring out more in people than they knew they had in them". There are likely more effective ways to bring out the best in people that also build environments that are healthy and where people want to work.

Re: After DeepMind’s cofounder was placed on leave for bullying, Google promoted him

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I feel like this story is overblown. He was clearly a bad manager. From what I can gather, he was placed on leave after an investigation and then moved to a policy position where he does not manage anyone.

Calling it a promotion is pure spin.

Re: After DeepMind’s cofounder was placed on leave for bullying, Google promoted him

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post #4

This article leaves out why he was promoted. I assume he was promoted despite the discipline, not as a reward. The article doesn’t research whether he’s reformed or still a bully. Or whether the position is important or not. These are important details. Maybe the position is BS and doesn’t have much authority. Maybe he’s learned the error of his ways. Without useful information this article is lame as it seems to lin…

As long as it's generating clicks, it doesn't really matter if there's a point

Re: After DeepMind’s cofounder was placed on leave for bullying, Google promoted him

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His disagreeability is probably correlated with his track record of innovation and if we cancel every outlier like that our ability to reach new plateaus will lag decades behind than if we only allow nice people to play.

Can’t see how being an asshole and being innovative are intrinsically linked.

On the other hand, being an asshole and [taking credit for other’s work, stepping on others to climb the corporate ladder, throwing others under the bus, other sociopathic behavior…] seem pretty correlated.

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