The Amazon Rainforest Is Fast Approaching a Point of No Return in Brazil
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#2This is so short-sighted and ignorant, it's hard to even read about. Brazilians should cherish their rainforest, legacy of millions of years of evolution, with wondrous biodiversity and an amazing carbon sink the planet desperately needs.
Instead, they're chopping and burning this vital carbon store to make room for beef production. This is so short sighted it's painful. We know beef has to be massively ramped down, it releases a ton of methane. Hopefully meat alternatives will render all these cattle farms obsolete.
Then what? Once we figure out artificial meat, all of these ranchers lose economically, and the million year old ecosystem is already destroyed. Sickening.
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#3This is so short-sighted and ignorant, it's hard to even read about. Brazilians should cherish their rainforest, legacy of millions of years of evolution, with wondrous biodiversity and an amazing carbon sink the planet desperately needs. Instead, they're chopping and burning this vital carbon store to make room for beef production. This is so short sighted it's painful. We know beef has to be massively ramped down,…
If it’s so important for the whole planet, why is no one paying Brazilians to keep the rainforests intact?
Re: The Amazon Rainforest Is Fast Approaching a Point of No Return in Brazil
#4This is so short-sighted and ignorant, it's hard to even read about. Brazilians should cherish their rainforest, legacy of millions of years of evolution, with wondrous biodiversity and an amazing carbon sink the planet desperately needs. Instead, they're chopping and burning this vital carbon store to make room for beef production. This is so short sighted it's painful. We know beef has to be massively ramped down,…
Humans are pretty good at nuking (literally or figuratively) entire ecosystems. See the Fertile Crescent, for example.
However, the damage we've done over the last ten thousand years may be reversible. There's at least one team working on a way to turn deserts into self-sustaining forests or even rainforests, and it's very promising.
The trick is going to be figuring that out before we make ourselves extinct.
Re: The Amazon Rainforest Is Fast Approaching a Point of No Return in Brazil
#5This is so short-sighted and ignorant, it's hard to even read about. Brazilians should cherish their rainforest, legacy of millions of years of evolution, with wondrous biodiversity and an amazing carbon sink the planet desperately needs. Instead, they're chopping and burning this vital carbon store to make room for beef production. This is so short sighted it's painful. We know beef has to be massively ramped down,…
If it’s so important for the whole planet, why is no one paying Brazilians to keep the rainforests intact?
Why is Amazon, the one Jeff Bezos owns, not cementing its legacy here on Earth by paying to keep the Amazon intact? Seems like really bad marketing on some interdimensional cable commercials.
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#6This is so short-sighted and ignorant, it's hard to even read about. Brazilians should cherish their rainforest, legacy of millions of years of evolution, with wondrous biodiversity and an amazing carbon sink the planet desperately needs. Instead, they're chopping and burning this vital carbon store to make room for beef production. This is so short sighted it's painful. We know beef has to be massively ramped down,…
Still, it's a drop in the bucket. Half of the US is convinced that they can do no harm as long as they are "free" or whatever, while simultaneously taking pride in preparing for the end of times (conflict of interest much?).
All of China doesn't have a choice but to contribute to the destruction.
The rest of the world mostly falls into the "negative" side of the spectrum.
WFIO
Re: The Amazon Rainforest Is Fast Approaching a Point of No Return in Brazil
#7This is so short-sighted and ignorant, it's hard to even read about. Brazilians should cherish their rainforest, legacy of millions of years of evolution, with wondrous biodiversity and an amazing carbon sink the planet desperately needs. Instead, they're chopping and burning this vital carbon store to make room for beef production. This is so short sighted it's painful. We know beef has to be massively ramped down,…
Assuming you're not a short-sighted person, how would a poor country like Brazil protect, without make any money out of it, an area bigger than Europe?
It's interesting how rich countries made their money by exploiting our (and other poor countries) natural resources, but now they realized it's bad.
The solutions proposed by Macron and Biden is ridiculous, outrageous. But it's not surprising, considering Europe/US instinct of colonizers/exploiters.
Re: The Amazon Rainforest Is Fast Approaching a Point of No Return in Brazil
#8This is so short-sighted and ignorant, it's hard to even read about. Brazilians should cherish their rainforest, legacy of millions of years of evolution, with wondrous biodiversity and an amazing carbon sink the planet desperately needs. Instead, they're chopping and burning this vital carbon store to make room for beef production. This is so short sighted it's painful. We know beef has to be massively ramped down,…
If it’s so important for the whole planet, why is no one paying Brazilians to keep the rainforests intact?
Norway (and others) did that for a while and they kind of got scammed.
See, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-environment-norway...
Re: The Amazon Rainforest Is Fast Approaching a Point of No Return in Brazil
#9This is so short-sighted and ignorant, it's hard to even read about. Brazilians should cherish their rainforest, legacy of millions of years of evolution, with wondrous biodiversity and an amazing carbon sink the planet desperately needs. Instead, they're chopping and burning this vital carbon store to make room for beef production. This is so short sighted it's painful. We know beef has to be massively ramped down,…
While I agree that losing the Amazon, and all of its biological and human diversity is a catastrophe, I don't agree with this sort of finger pointing.
The same argument can be said of most, if not all, of the western countries whose primary ecosystems have gone extinct by mostly the same reasons. How come then that when the developing nations in the global south do so, they're short-sighted and ignorant?
Yes, Brazil has the sovereignty to protect the Amazon. But one also has to understand the political and economic pressures exerted both internally and externally.
Brazil was responsible for ~20% of the word's beef exports in 2018 [1]. Who is purchasing that beef? What trade arrangements are incentivizing this activity?
This is not to justify what's happening in the Amazon. This is to point out that the situation is more complex that being "short-sighted" and "ignorant".
[1]: https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2019/july/brazil-once-a...
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#10What we in the EU actually can do: campaign for a ban on imports of Brazilian beef as long as they’re allowing the destruction of their rainforests.
The cheaper beer I see at the discount grocery stores is often from Brazil, so this isn’t merely symbolic.