What vaccinated people should know about their risk from the delta varian
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Re: What vaccinated people should know about their risk from the delta varian
#2I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed.
Whenever I read a sentence like "The goal was never to eradicate COVID from being annoying—it was to eradicate it from being a killer." Those same experts, a year ago, were assuring us that COVID would never become endemic.
Same thing with vaccines. Yes, everyone should get vaccinated. Yes, we were given a ton of guidance that vaccines would stop the spread of COVID.
I feel like there are two camps:
1) Liberals, who are in control of the health establishment, who lie to get the behavior they want (starting with "no mask" advice, to now overselling vaccines, and rewriting history)
2) Conservatives, who ignore all science.
Liberal media emphasizes how we've always been at war with Eastasia, and liberals believe it. Conservatives point to inconsistencies and open lies, and use that to discount everything from medical, academic, and government establishments.
Re: What vaccinated people should know about their risk from the delta varian
#3I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed. Whenever I read a sentence like "The goal was never to eradicate COVID from being annoying—it was to eradicate it from being a killer." Those same experts, a year ago, were assuring us that COVID would never become endemic. Same thing with vaccines. Yes, everyone should get vaccinated. Yes, we were given a ton of guidance that vaccines would stop the spread…
>I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed.
The goalposts have been moving ever since we were told "only 2 weeks to stop the spread".
Re: What vaccinated people should know about their risk from the delta varian
#4@dang: missing a "t" in varianT. ^^
Re: What vaccinated people should know about their risk from the delta varian
#5I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed. Whenever I read a sentence like "The goal was never to eradicate COVID from being annoying—it was to eradicate it from being a killer." Those same experts, a year ago, were assuring us that COVID would never become endemic. Same thing with vaccines. Yes, everyone should get vaccinated. Yes, we were given a ton of guidance that vaccines would stop the spread…
"The goal was never to eradicate COVID from being annoying" does sound surprising considering all we've been hearing about the effectiveness of the mRNA at preventing infections of non-Delta COVID. But then, that high effectiveness was once itself a surprise, so it may make sense if the point of reference is before the original clinical trials were finished.
Re: What vaccinated people should know about their risk from the delta varian
#6I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed. Whenever I read a sentence like "The goal was never to eradicate COVID from being annoying—it was to eradicate it from being a killer." Those same experts, a year ago, were assuring us that COVID would never become endemic. Same thing with vaccines. Yes, everyone should get vaccinated. Yes, we were given a ton of guidance that vaccines would stop the spread…
Not. Fauci a year ago:
Infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday he believes the world will “get control of” Covid-19, but “I don’t really see us eradicating it,” expressing a view in line with public health experts—but directly contradicting President Donald Trump’s claims made as recently as Tuesday that the virus will “disappear”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/07/22/contrad...
Re: What vaccinated people should know about their risk from the delta varian
#7I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed. Whenever I read a sentence like "The goal was never to eradicate COVID from being annoying—it was to eradicate it from being a killer." Those same experts, a year ago, were assuring us that COVID would never become endemic. Same thing with vaccines. Yes, everyone should get vaccinated. Yes, we were given a ton of guidance that vaccines would stop the spread…
Seeing the “goalposts” argument is so tiring. We learn something new every day, of course our understanding of COVID changes and thus the recommendation of how to keep ourselves healthy does too.
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#8I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed. Whenever I read a sentence like "The goal was never to eradicate COVID from being annoying—it was to eradicate it from being a killer." Those same experts, a year ago, were assuring us that COVID would never become endemic. Same thing with vaccines. Yes, everyone should get vaccinated. Yes, we were given a ton of guidance that vaccines would stop the spread…
>I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed. The goalposts have been moving ever since we were told "only 2 weeks to stop the spread".
When did anyone say "2 weeks to stop the spread"
I remember "2 Weeks to slow the curve" and Trump's "15 days to slow the spread" but I don't remember anyone ever saying eradication was simply 2 weeks of lockdown away.
Even if it was as simple as 2 weeks away, many people chose to ignore the stay-at-home orders, so it's not really achievable. I think you're confusing 'moving goal posts' with constant failure to reach a goal followed by readjustment to new data.
Re: What vaccinated people should know about their risk from the delta varian
#9I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed. Whenever I read a sentence like "The goal was never to eradicate COVID from being annoying—it was to eradicate it from being a killer." Those same experts, a year ago, were assuring us that COVID would never become endemic. Same thing with vaccines. Yes, everyone should get vaccinated. Yes, we were given a ton of guidance that vaccines would stop the spread…
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Re: What vaccinated people should know about their risk from the delta varian
#10I feel like the goal posts are moving with lightening speed. Whenever I read a sentence like "The goal was never to eradicate COVID from being annoying—it was to eradicate it from being a killer." Those same experts, a year ago, were assuring us that COVID would never become endemic. Same thing with vaccines. Yes, everyone should get vaccinated. Yes, we were given a ton of guidance that vaccines would stop the spread…
The level of discourse and critical thinking in the mainstream media is made for uneducated people who don't understand even basic biology.
There is a certain breed of scientist that just spouts bullshit. Unfortunately the media is so obsessed with "narratives" that it will seek these people out (and these bullshit artists seek out the media) so all nuance is lost.
The moral of the story is, don't let other people do your thinking for you.