Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
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Re: Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
#2I would like to point out that this kind of tech isn't only used by state sponsored operations.
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50166147
Lone wolf creepers or quasi legal harassment companies have access to similar tools.
https://www.nefariousjobsmain.com/the-works
https://www.vice.com/en/article/ppmpe8/a-revenge-for-hire-bu...
Although of course the state sponsored aspect of this is very real too, and the greatest threat.
Re: Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
#3Trade ban...
Every single government uses such tools. The ones that don't likely have bigger problems such as sustenance, lack of electricity, etc.
What people should be looking at is the crazy amount of Israeli presence in the so called cyber security sector. I can think of a few such companies that literally spy and track hundreds of thousands of people all over the world. The government is using their services and therefore lets them whatever they want.
I know a few guys working for such companies. No longer friends with them. Works foriteral evil. No better than military types
Re: Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
#420 years ago I discovered antivirus software did not detect spyware by design. So never ever trust software that is not FOSS. Use Foss with reproducible builds to be a bit more safe against these by design created weaknesses.
Re: Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
#5Trade ban... Every single government uses such tools. The ones that don't likely have bigger problems such as sustenance, lack of electricity, etc. What people should be looking at is the crazy amount of Israeli presence in the so called cyber security sector. I can think of a few such companies that literally spy and track hundreds of thousands of people all over the world. The government is using their services and…
> What people should be looking at is the crazy amount of Israeli presence in the so called cyber security sector.
Limiting the ability of nations to export this kind of capability as a product for other entities to use is precisely what "trade ban" would do.
You're right that a trade ban won't affect the ability of nations to develop and deploy their own spyware, but most of the targets in the Pegasus dump seem to be of people peripheral to smaller governments that don't have this kind of capability themselves (which is exactly why they buy it!).
Re: Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
#620 years ago I discovered antivirus software did not detect spyware by design. So never ever trust software that is not FOSS. Use Foss with reproducible builds to be a bit more safe against these by design created weaknesses.
Sadly, most people when hearing this will prefer to argue to the death to support their "choice" of ${favorite giant corporate product} and try to tell you "you're just being paranoid". We live in a world where a great many people will accept the most outlandish conspiracy theories as undeniable fact with little to no supporting evidence, but when you try to warn them about real and verifiable concerns, it doesn't matter how much proof there is… You're automatically wrong in their eyes. What's more terrifying than that? Some of those people hold positions of great power in this world.
Re: Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
#720 years ago I discovered antivirus software did not detect spyware by design. So never ever trust software that is not FOSS. Use Foss with reproducible builds to be a bit more safe against these by design created weaknesses.
Sadly, most people when hearing this will prefer to argue to the death to support their "choice" of ${favorite giant corporate product} and try to tell you "you're just being paranoid". We live in a world where a great many people will accept the most outlandish conspiracy theories as undeniable fact with little to no supporting evidence, but when you try to warn them about real and verifiable concerns, it doesn't ma…
We've got to get to them before microsoft and google do. Teach Linux in schools and about the importance of FLOSS. In my school in California it was all windows in the 1990's and 2000's.
Re: Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sadly, most people when hearing this will prefer to argue to the death to support their "choice" of ${favorite giant corporate product} and try to tell you "you're just being paranoid". We live in a world where a great many people will accept the most outlandish conspiracy theories as undeniable fact with little to no supporting evidence, but when you try to warn them about real and verifiable concerns, it doesn't ma…
We've got to get to them before microsoft and google do. Teach Linux in schools and about the importance of FLOSS. In my school in California it was all windows in the 1990's and 2000's.
> In my school in California it was all windows in the 1990's and 2000's.
Yeah, it was that way even before that. Microsoft and Apple got into a "donation war" tryin'a get their corporate garbage into schools back when I was a kid. Looks like Microsoft largely won that war. Hard to fight multiple generations deep corporate brainwashing.
Re: Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
#9I would like to point out that this kind of tech isn't only used by state sponsored operations. https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50166147 Lone wolf creepers or quasi legal harassment companies have access to similar tools. https://www.nefariousjobsmain.com/the-works https://www.vice.com/en/article/ppmpe8/a-revenge-for-hire-bu... Although of course the state sponsored aspect of this is very real too, and the greate…
That is entirely disgusting. Destroying a life for money. That that's a possibility...
Re: Edward Snowden calls for spyware trade ban amid Pegasus revelations
#1020 years ago I discovered antivirus software did not detect spyware by design. So never ever trust software that is not FOSS. Use Foss with reproducible builds to be a bit more safe against these by design created weaknesses.
What about open source spyware?