When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disinterest
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Re: When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disinterest
#2Why is there no widespread antibody testing to see if we've reached herd immunity? The push to vaccinate is only necessary if we're not there yet. I recall a study from a couple months ago claiming several times more people caught the virus than was generally thought.
Re: When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disinterest
#3Why is there no widespread antibody testing to see if we've reached herd immunity? The push to vaccinate is only necessary if we're not there yet. I recall a study from a couple months ago claiming several times more people caught the virus than was generally thought.
The US on Friday saw the highest daily increase in cases since May. We don’t need to test for herd immunity; it’s patently obvious we haven’t reached it.
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#4Why is there no widespread antibody testing to see if we've reached herd immunity? The push to vaccinate is only necessary if we're not there yet. I recall a study from a couple months ago claiming several times more people caught the virus than was generally thought.
We don't need testing to figure out of we are at herd immunity. We know we are not, because the virus is spreading still and increasing speed now. It is only really an issue amongst unvaccinated. This population is basically anti-vax, apathetic, or children for whom the government has banned from getting the vaccine, regardless of circumstance.
Re: When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disinterest
#5Why is there no widespread antibody testing to see if we've reached herd immunity? The push to vaccinate is only necessary if we're not there yet. I recall a study from a couple months ago claiming several times more people caught the virus than was generally thought.
Who are these people you imagine are willing to go in for comprehensive antibody testing but are refusing to take the vaccine.
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#6Why is there no widespread antibody testing to see if we've reached herd immunity? The push to vaccinate is only necessary if we're not there yet. I recall a study from a couple months ago claiming several times more people caught the virus than was generally thought.
Who are these people you imagine are willing to go in for comprehensive antibody testing but are refusing to take the vaccine.
People who don't want the vaccine and don't want to be harassed for it.
Re: When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disinterest
#7Why is there no widespread antibody testing to see if we've reached herd immunity? The push to vaccinate is only necessary if we're not there yet. I recall a study from a couple months ago claiming several times more people caught the virus than was generally thought.
The problem with herd immunity is that the rate differs based on the variant. For something much more transmissible (like the Delta variant), herd immunity numbers are much different than for the original one. There's an argument that the US reached herd immunity on the original one pretty early on in vaccinations. And alpha with current vaccination rates. It's clear we haven't with Delta because numbers are going way up in unvaccinated people.
Re: When Vaccine Apathy, Not Hesitancy, Drives Vaccine Disinterest
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who are these people you imagine are willing to go in for comprehensive antibody testing but are refusing to take the vaccine.
People who don't want the vaccine and don't want to be harassed for it.
> People who don't want the vaccine and don't want to be harassed for it
That’s easy to do—stay on private property. This country’s laws were written to protect those rights. With WFH, it’s more plausible than ever.
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#999.5% of those dying from Covid in America are unvaccinated. 99.5%.
At a certain point, I don’t know what to say, but the train has to leave the station. If you choose to run around unvaccinated and get Covid, the rest of us shouldn’t have to (a) shut down our lives or (b) pay tax dollars to save you if you end up in the hospital or dealing with the costs of long Covid. (See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stupid_Motorist_Law.) This keeps everyone happy, and somewhat equitably constrains the harm. (It leaves those who can’t get vaccinated SOL.)
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#10There’s also just plain distrust of government and media pushing something. Our trust in government and media is so low that when they say do something, most rational people are immediately suspicious.