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Pandora: Giant of Internet Radio Nears Its 'Last Stand'

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Re: Pandora: Giant of Internet Radio Nears Its 'Last Stand'

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Among other things Pandora is good at is getting good PR when needed to help in it's Washington Lobbying.

This is at least the second time they've threatened to pull the plug to get positive legislation passed.

I agree they are a great service. It's nice to see even small tech companies take the fight to Washington (instead of ignoring them ala Intel, Microsoft and Google)

Re: Pandora: Giant of Internet Radio Nears Its 'Last Stand'

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I can't for the life of me understand why SoundExchange thinks that charging exorbitant rates that force all web streaming music sites out of business will help its artists make more money. 8/100 of a cent x millions of songs played is infinitely better than 19/100 of a cent x ZERO songs played. Are they stupid or stubborn?

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I can't for the life of me understand why SoundExchange thinks that charging exorbitant rates that force all web streaming music sites out of business will help its artists make more money. 8/100 of a cent x millions of songs played is infinitely better than 19/100 of a cent x ZERO songs played. Are they stupid or stubborn?

Sounds like they want to force web radio to run more intrusive advertising or to charge fees.

And if web radio won't, then they see it as giving away songs too cheaply that they want to artificially keep high-priced.

Re: Pandora: Giant of Internet Radio Nears Its 'Last Stand'

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I can't for the life of me understand why SoundExchange thinks that charging exorbitant rates that force all web streaming music sites out of business will help its artists make more money. 8/100 of a cent x millions of songs played is infinitely better than 19/100 of a cent x ZERO songs played. Are they stupid or stubborn?

I think it comes back to not really wanting the internet to happen. And not necessarily irrationally.

The recording industry world has been in a pretty sweat spot. The current (& past) world creates a substantial income built on 1. selling albums, 2. strict adherance to a 90/10 rule (revenue/artists), 3. Periphery industries that support 1 & 2 (eg: movie soundtracks, radio).

Almost any step is a step away from that cushy world. So any slowing of change is good.

Re: Pandora: Giant of Internet Radio Nears Its 'Last Stand'

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I remain confused by why people believe that "the community" should be able to set price caps on artwork owned by corporations. If Warner Music wants to charge $5 a play for Mylie Cyrus, I'm certainly not going to pay it, but how is it "wrong"?

I'm surprised and happy that Pandora and Last.fm can exist at all, but I don't understand what entitles them to exist. We don't have a "right" to consume major label music.

Re: Pandora: Giant of Internet Radio Nears Its 'Last Stand'

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I would gladly pay either a subscription or a per song fee to Pandora. At .2 cents per song it would be worth it.

...and you've just made the comment that makes me highly doubt that this is anything but a PR coup for the company, in their efforts to lobby the bureaucrats.

With millions of active users, I don't think Pandora would just fold up their tent and go home. Like the story says, there are lots of potential ways to monetize the service.

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