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Cheating in FPS by using a second computer to move mouse

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Re: Cheating in FPS by using a second computer to move mouse

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One may wonder what exactly is the point in a human watching this auto-playing game system, and whether they'd be better off watching a movie... But another way to look at it is as a preview of the future.

Just picture this: a world of machines battling it out for supremacy, and somewhere off to the side there is an almost forgotten human brain. It seems to serve no discernible purpose, and yet it is actually the reason all the machines exist. What they are actually fighting to optimize, unbeknownst to them, is the dopamine release into a primate brain. Bonus points if the brain itself is a simulation :)

Re: Cheating in FPS by using a second computer to move mouse

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I was thinking about this the other day when I saw a YouTube Warzone stream lament that the game didn't have an anti-cheat system on the end users machine.

I do wonder about the claim that it is undetectable though since a machine will be flawless where as even the best human players make mistakes.

Re: Cheating in FPS by using a second computer to move mouse

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post #4

I was thinking about this the other day when I saw a YouTube Warzone stream lament that the game didn't have an anti-cheat system on the end users machine. I do wonder about the claim that it is undetectable though since a machine will be flawless where as even the best human players make mistakes.

a good cheat will make mistakes if thats needed to look like a good human.

Re: Cheating in FPS by using a second computer to move mouse

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post #4

I was thinking about this the other day when I saw a YouTube Warzone stream lament that the game didn't have an anti-cheat system on the end users machine. I do wonder about the claim that it is undetectable though since a machine will be flawless where as even the best human players make mistakes.

I stopped playing war zone due to the amount of cheaters. Most of the streamers cheat too and it’s sad. It can be a lot of fun to play but it’s like counter strike back in the day when it got over run by cheaters until valve started auto detecting them.

There’s videos of a popular streamer called symphony or something where he’s shooting people through walls or sniping people when zoomed in that aren’t even visible. Then jokes “oh someone will call me a cheater”

Re: Cheating in FPS by using a second computer to move mouse

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This is close to my ideal way of avoiding a runaway Ultron/Skynet-type AI scenario: airgap it and force the use of a physical mouse, monitor, and keyboard to interact with the outside world. At least once it reaches Twitter we can stop it before it destroys humanity one robotic keystroke at a time.

Re: Cheating in FPS by using a second computer to move mouse

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I did something like this with Dota2 where I'd have it monitor the opposing team to save their locations when they appeared on the minimap in a shaded color on a 2nd monitor on that 2nd computer. I used an HDMI splitter and HDMI capture card to send the input to the second computer. I did the CV stuff with opencv library. Taking it a step further as shown in the article could be done to do stuff like auto creep killing vs human and stuff like that.

Re: Cheating in FPS by using a second computer to move mouse

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post #4

I was thinking about this the other day when I saw a YouTube Warzone stream lament that the game didn't have an anti-cheat system on the end users machine. I do wonder about the claim that it is undetectable though since a machine will be flawless where as even the best human players make mistakes.

I think it's currently impossible to detect. I think it would be possible to detect if you used some kind of player profile where you characterized how a player moved and then were able to determine through a replay whether the profiles matched. However then you could program the cheat AI to mimic the real player etc, etc. But this would take several evolutions where each tech would be ahead of the other.

Re: Cheating in FPS by using a second computer to move mouse

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post #3

One may wonder what exactly is the point in a human watching this auto-playing game system, and whether they'd be better off watching a movie... But another way to look at it is as a preview of the future. Just picture this: a world of machines battling it out for supremacy, and somewhere off to the side there is an almost forgotten human brain. It seems to serve no discernible purpose, and yet it is actually the rea…

Cheats are about two things: money or prestige. People want to get back at the players who so rudely beat them normally, and get high competitive rankings that make them look better than other players in that games community. Or, they use the cheats to create high ranking game accounts to sell to players who want to look good, or they simply cheat to win prize money.

It should go without saying that this kind of activity destroys the interest in games affected by it. People don't like playing against superhuman enemies and having their progress impeded by it.

It doesn't make sense that it would be enjoyable to play except that you can enjoy making money or making other people feel bad.

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