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Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood

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Maybe it's due to my lack of experience raising children but a lot of this seems very bizarre. A sixteen year old remembering events from when they were three? Staying up till three AM talking to their parent? Being scared of other people seeing them as stupid before the age of three? The article doesn't come out and say whether this child was diagnosed by a professional but it seems obvious to me that they should've been. I hope they received treatment and beneficial accommodations.

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That a 16-year old remembers such detail about age 3 seems… unusual. I don’t mean a memory here or there; this child remembers very specific experiences and the feelings he had about them when he was almost pre-verbal. Seems almost incredible.

I remember things from when I was that age (not a lot, but a more than most people for sure. And I'm in my 50's) I think it varies from person to person. My brother remembers nothing from that age.

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Misattribution in pattern-matching is common and necessary to construct and improve workable inner models of self, others, and the world.

This requires training ("pre-training" or guidance from a more omniscient-esque knowledge agent), trial-and-error testing, and feedback to attain mastery (accurate and precise pattern-matching).

Think of it analogous to genetic programming of the olden days:

1) Create an arbitrary model (code that results in answers of "is it safe?" "is it helpful?" etc.)

2) Test it

3) Find parts that work and parts that are broken

4) Mutate mostly the broken parts

5) Repeat until funding runs out

It's better to fail-safe being afraid of something if you don't understand it because life is fragile and many things could eat you/hurt you. And, young ones don't have that same experiences or defenses of full-grown, mature (-ish? because they're parents) adults.

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That a 16-year old remembers such detail about age 3 seems… unusual. I don’t mean a memory here or there; this child remembers very specific experiences and the feelings he had about them when he was almost pre-verbal. Seems almost incredible.

There's probably some genetic switch flipped or something.

I can remember back to age 9 months. I tried writing out all my early-childhood memories (I have one therapist friend who said that early memories are a sign of trauma, but then I've also had therapists that say early memories are a sign of giftedness. Maybe these are one and the same, and developing consciousness and memory too early is its own form of trauma.

It's been fascinating to watch long-term memory develop in my son, though. When he was about 20 months old, we went on a walk by a house in the neighborhood that had a half-eaten pizza box strewn across its yard. We went back two weeks later, and he asked "Where's the pizza?" I was like "What pizza?" until I remembered what it had looked like a couple weeks before, and was like "It got cleaned up. How did you remember there was a pizza there?"

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That a 16-year old remembers such detail about age 3 seems… unusual. I don’t mean a memory here or there; this child remembers very specific experiences and the feelings he had about them when he was almost pre-verbal. Seems almost incredible.

At that age I swore I would remember certain things into adulthood so I could tell somebody.

1. It is too hot. It is always too hot. Don't wrap me up so I can't get cool.

2. Fingernails shouldn't be used on scalps.

3. You aren't leaving now. Don't say you're leaving now when you will not leave for another half hour.

Re: Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood

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Maybe it's due to my lack of experience raising children but a lot of this seems very bizarre. A sixteen year old remembering events from when they were three? Staying up till three AM talking to their parent? Being scared of other people seeing them as stupid before the age of three? The article doesn't come out and say whether this child was diagnosed by a professional but it seems obvious to me that they should've…

The specifics all sound borderline traumatic for the child, so if he remembers anything at all he'll remember these events in particular.

I've got plenty of memories from about the age of 5 - almost all of them scary or embarrassing for little me. And I'm nearing 40. When I was 16 could I still remember stuff from the age of 3? I wouldn't be surprised.

I remember loving ducks and trains for some reason when I was about that age. But I don't have a lot of specifics.

Re: Crazy Conclusions in Early Childhood

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That a 16-year old remembers such detail about age 3 seems… unusual. I don’t mean a memory here or there; this child remembers very specific experiences and the feelings he had about them when he was almost pre-verbal. Seems almost incredible.

Yeah it sounds weird, I lost most memory pre-6, except rare shocking events (the first time I met twins when I was 4, the first time my sister ate wallpaper when I was 3, when the cat died when I was 3 and my mom explained me what death was, things like that that I remember quite vividly but with no pre/post context)
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