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Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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This sounds alarming:

> There is strong evidence for brain-related pathologies in COVID-19, some of which could be a consequence of viral neurotropism.

This doesn't:

> We further compared COVID-19 patients who had been hospitalised (n=15) with those who had not (n=379), and while results were not significant, we found comparatively similar findings to the COVID-19 vs control group comparison

What are the quantitative findings of "loss of grey matter"?

What mechanism/s are suspected that might be specific to COVID19?

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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This sounds alarming: > There is strong evidence for brain-related pathologies in COVID-19, some of which could be a consequence of viral neurotropism. This doesn't: > We further compared COVID-19 patients who had been hospitalised (n=15) with those who had not (n=379), and while results were not significant, we found comparatively similar findings to the COVID-19 vs control group comparison What are the quantitative…

>Our findings thus consistently relate to loss of grey matter in limbic cortical areas directly linked to the primary olfactory and gustatory system.

Looks like the loss of smell is due to an impact of the virus on brain tissue. It would be interesting to check if it ever comes back to normal months/years later.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

Agree completely. That said, ideally I don't want either. Since a lot of people wanted to get vaccinated immediately, I can avoid that and the virus with very high probability. If needed, I'll take v3 or so of the mRNA vaccine.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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post #5

This sounds alarming: > There is strong evidence for brain-related pathologies in COVID-19, some of which could be a consequence of viral neurotropism. This doesn't: > We further compared COVID-19 patients who had been hospitalised (n=15) with those who had not (n=379), and while results were not significant, we found comparatively similar findings to the COVID-19 vs control group comparison What are the quantitative…

> Our findings thus consistently relate to loss of grey matter in limbic cortical areas directly linked to the primary olfactory and gustatory system. Looks like the loss of smell is due to an impact of the virus on brain tissue. It would be interesting to check if it ever comes back to normal months/years later.

Totally anecdotal, but my wife who was very ill with both covid and then long covid, only lost her smell for a day before it returned.

Another friend who had very few symptoms still has no sense of smell 9 months later - her smell can come and go, and she will also now 'miss-smell' smelling nice things as horrible and horrible as nice.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

Agree completely. That said, ideally I don't want either. Since a lot of people wanted to get vaccinated immediately, I can avoid that and the virus with very high probability. If needed, I'll take v3 or so of the mRNA vaccine.

If many people do what you are doing, some percentage can get the virus and allow it to mutate further, reducing the vaccine efficiency, putting others to risk.

Prisoner's dilemma at play.

meta edit: I don't like your post becoming completely gray and therefore up-voted you. It's a view that many people hold and it needs to be answered not by screaming "down-vote the selfish!" but rather with good arguments.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

I wish I could get people that don't understand the nuances to deeply look into, study the mRNA vaccine, currently known issues including long haul COVID symptoms of people who've only had the vaccine (via the spike protein which has turned out to be cytotoxic and seems to break away causing issues), and look seriously into the Ivermectin research and its suppression; and yes, certainly I'll be downvoted because people prefer to do that instead of actually look into it - and I won't bother linking to resources related to Ivermectin etc - just go to my comment history and see them there, downvoted of course.

Re: Brain imaging before and after Covid-19 in UK Biobank

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post #9

I wish I could get people that are avoiding the COVID vaccine “because we don’t know what the long term effects are” to realize that we have real data showing that there are long term effects from getting full blown COVID. You don’t want a tiny piece of mRNA but you want the whole organism reproducing in your body? The whole genome and all the proteins made?

I wish I could get people that don't understand the nuances to deeply look into, study the mRNA vaccine, currently known issues including long haul COVID symptoms of people who've only had the vaccine (via the spike protein which has turned out to be cytotoxic and seems to break away causing issues), and look seriously into the Ivermectin research and its suppression; and yes, certainly I'll be downvoted because peop…

>and I won't bother linking to resources related to Ivermectin

I'm not informed enough to comment on the content of your post, but this is a horrible way to start a productive discussion.

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