Ask HN: advice for taking difficult CS programming courses?

#1

Post by tootlol » Mon, Jul 11, 2011, 2:31 AM UTC

The CS program in my University only offers three programming courses in first and second year before the operating system course. The first two courses are about scheme and c while the third one is C++. Now from what I know the majority of the students could only get an average of 60 in these courses not to mention an OS course. In addition, from looking at some of my friend's performance in the OS course they are struggling really hard and can barely finish 50% of the assignments. Most student pass it by doing well on the exams which is theory based. On top of that, I was originally impress by some students who got a 96% but it turned out that they did some dirty tricks (such as dropping it half way through and taking it again; I know one guy who did this 3 times for the OS course).

If anyone did well in their respective OS courses could you provide some advices? I know that it varies from program to program but please share anything you can.

Re: Ask HN: advice for taking difficult CS programming courses?

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Post by erikpukinskis » Mon, Jul 11, 2011, 3:09 AM UTC

Your grades will never matter.

However, the difficulty of the challenges you take on will make all the difference in the world.

Grad schools and employers want people who can take on hard problems, who can do so with autonomy, and who can get help when they need it.

Start practicing.

Re: Ask HN: advice for taking difficult CS programming courses?

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Post by tootlol » Mon, Jul 11, 2011, 3:35 AM UTC

erikpukinskis wrote: post #2

Your grades will never matter. However, the difficulty of the challenges you take on will make all the difference in the world . Grad schools and employers want people who can take on hard problems, who can do so with autonomy, and who can get help when they need it. Start practicing.

Do you feel the program is flawed since it only has 3 programming courses before an OS course? I think the major reason is that students don't do well is because of lack of practice.

Re: Ask HN: advice for taking difficult CS programming courses?

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Post by bankim » Mon, Jul 11, 2011, 3:35 AM UTC

Don't worry too much about grades. Take on the challenge. Before taking up OS course, make sure you become proficient in C and understanding pointers.

Re: Ask HN: advice for taking difficult CS programming courses?

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Post by T-R » Mon, Jul 11, 2011, 6:30 AM UTC

tootlol wrote: post #3

erikpukinskis wrote: post #2

Your grades will never matter. However, the difficulty of the challenges you take on will make all the difference in the world . Grad schools and employers want people who can take on hard problems, who can do so with autonomy, and who can get help when they need it. Start practicing.

Do you feel the program is flawed since it only has 3 programming courses before an OS course? I think the major reason is that students don't do well is because of lack of practice.

That could be true, or it could not be. I had more courses before my OS class, but strictly speaking, I didn't necessarily need to take them in that order.

Either way, it seems that the thing to do would be to get more practice independently. If you're really worried about that particular course, see if you can read up on some of the material beforehand. If the assignments are published somewhere publicly, you could even start on them early.

Also, dropping the course and re-taking it isn't really a dirty trick - they just took some more time to learn the material. You could do the same by getting a head start practicing it. If they finished with a 96% the second time, there's a good chance they learned more from it than someone who got through with a 50% and never touched the material again.

Re: Ask HN: advice for taking difficult CS programming courses?

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Post by namank » Mon, Jul 11, 2011, 2:32 PM UTC

Take the challenge, step up your game. Since you already know what difficult courses you have, why not work on them beforehand by studying for them or becoming the as best a programmer you can BE in the courses you are taking now.

I had a very basic programming course. Then an algorithms course. Then an Assembly course, then compilers, then OS. All were in different languages and there was very knowledge transfer. I don't think the number of courses matter as much as how well you understand the ones you have.

OS was my second best undergrad course, right after compilers.