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The art of Front end Engineering

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Re: The art of Front end Engineering

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Like any position my enjoyment of front end depends highly on the philosophy of the company. Am I going to work with designers and product managers to really put the customer first and craft accessible, enjoyable, and useful ways of customer interaction? Or am I going to spend my time building dark patterns

Re: The art of Front end Engineering

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Developers only get to call themselves 'Engineers' when they deal with lots of Javascript. HTML+CSS is a sort of glue language, and using that on a daily basis is not engineering anymore than filling up plant pots with compost and seeds and then calling yourself a 'gardener'.

Re: The art of Front end Engineering

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post #2

Like any position my enjoyment of front end depends highly on the philosophy of the company. Am I going to work with designers and product managers to really put the customer first and craft accessible, enjoyable, and useful ways of customer interaction? Or am I going to spend my time building dark patterns

Definitely. There's something amazing working as a frontend on a design led company. Often time my role feels closer to the designers than backend. The best part though is we get to participate in both spectrums if we really want.

Re: The art of Front end Engineering

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post #3

Developers only get to call themselves 'Engineers' when they deal with lots of Javascript. HTML+CSS is a sort of glue language, and using that on a daily basis is not engineering anymore than filling up plant pots with compost and seeds and then calling yourself a 'gardener'.

Are we really going to go down this path? Feel like this is such an outdated view that doesn't add any value.

Re: The art of Front end Engineering

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post #3

Developers only get to call themselves 'Engineers' when they deal with lots of Javascript. HTML+CSS is a sort of glue language, and using that on a daily basis is not engineering anymore than filling up plant pots with compost and seeds and then calling yourself a 'gardener'.

Nice gatekeeping dude. I disagree - a lot of cases can be done with just html and css. Choosing the right tool for the job can by no means mean that you're any less of an engineer.

Re: The art of Front end Engineering

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post #3

Developers only get to call themselves 'Engineers' when they deal with lots of Javascript. HTML+CSS is a sort of glue language, and using that on a daily basis is not engineering anymore than filling up plant pots with compost and seeds and then calling yourself a 'gardener'.

Nice gatekeeping dude. I disagree - a lot of cases can be done with just html and css. Choosing the right tool for the job can by no means mean that you're any less of an engineer.

Very well said.

Re: The art of Front end Engineering

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post #5
post #3

Developers only get to call themselves 'Engineers' when they deal with lots of Javascript. HTML+CSS is a sort of glue language, and using that on a daily basis is not engineering anymore than filling up plant pots with compost and seeds and then calling yourself a 'gardener'.

Are we really going to go down this path? Feel like this is such an outdated view that doesn't add any value.

Yep. In addition to being toxic and wrong and pointless, it also reveals that OP isn’t actually very good at the non-JS parts of front-end engineering. It’s easy to assume that something is basic when you only have a basic understanding of it.

Re: The art of Front end Engineering

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are we really going to go down this path? Feel like this is such an outdated view that doesn't add any value.

Yep. In addition to being toxic and wrong and pointless, it also reveals that OP isn’t actually very good at the non-JS parts of front-end engineering. It’s easy to assume that something is basic when you only have a basic understanding of it.

It's also the same kind of gatekeeping that they said about javascript when it was first introduced... the gp doesn't even know their history.
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