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New York Senate passes Right to Repair bill

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Normally the next step would be a vote on an identical bill in the state’s Assembly.

But Thursday is the last day of session for the NY legislature, and the bill has not yet escaped committee, making a vote by the full Assembly unlikely.

The battle for fair repair in New York will continue into next year’s session, with a strong record of success.

So eventually... maybe.

Re: New York Senate passes Right to Repair bill

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Not really related but ifixit really is fantastic. I’ve fixed so many things I had no business being able to fix on my own thanks to their guides and videos. I wish more people would turn to their site before throwing stuff away.

I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but I do wonder about the idea that by making the power source impossible to remove, the phone can be a surveillance device even when the user thinks it's powered off.

I wonder what the minds of HN think about this scenario. Is the move towards non-removable batteries perhaps related to this?

I also wonder about the movement away from physical headphone jacks....I imagine bluetooth is easier to hack then a physical cable.

Edit: thanks for engaging on this. You helped me discount this theory.

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If NY really wants to cut e-waste they should require removable batteries in cellphones and laptops. The move to non-removable batteries always seemed like a thinly veild money grab to me.

It makes everything disposable. I’ve seen a few 200 dollar health devices that fail quickly because they use cheap cr 2032 batteries that can’t be accessed.

I miss the days of clip in batteries. I still have a 2013 laptop like that.

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post #5

Not really related but ifixit really is fantastic. I’ve fixed so many things I had no business being able to fix on my own thanks to their guides and videos. I wish more people would turn to their site before throwing stuff away.

I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, but I do wonder about the idea that by making the power source impossible to remove, the phone can be a surveillance device even when the user thinks it's powered off. I wonder what the minds of HN think about this scenario. Is the move towards non-removable batteries perhaps related to this? I also wonder about the movement away from physical headphone jacks....I imagine bluetoo…

Designwise, it's about waterproofing.

You have to undersize parts for a watertight fit, which can result in undesirable characteristics when deformation or dropping of a device does happen. There's also an increasing tendency to use the outer shell of a device as a heat-sink/radiator. Adhesives enable this type of design but make it darn near impossible to maintain.

I'm not going to say there isn't a mustache twirler somewhere with surveillance plans of grandeur... but unfortunately the truth may be closer to it's cheaper to buy a tube of glue than to get a tub of small, self-tapping screws.

That's just my 2 cents from having torn things apart and put them back together to varying degrees of success.

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From someone living in NY and having watched bills like this... Last time this came up it silently died without a vote. This vote is probably symbolic and it will languish in the Assembly forever. It is nice they voted for this overwhelmingly but it has not been "passed" as a law. It just passed step 1/3

Re: New York Senate passes Right to Repair bill

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post #6

If NY really wants to cut e-waste they should require removable batteries in cellphones and laptops. The move to non-removable batteries always seemed like a thinly veild money grab to me.

It makes everything disposable. I’ve seen a few 200 dollar health devices that fail quickly because they use cheap cr 2032 batteries that can’t be accessed. I miss the days of clip in batteries. I still have a 2013 laptop like that.

Agree. Non removable batteries is an aesthetic approach to consumer devices. It has no place in industrial applications. An analogy would be a decorated plastic bag selling seeds at hardware store, Or a brown ugly burlap selling seeds to landscape contractors. One is for consumers. The other is for the expert.
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