Google on today’s massive Google+ spam influx: “We ran out of disk space”

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Post by suneliot » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 5:55 AM UTC

Google on today’s massive Google+ spam influx: “We ran out of disk space”
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Post by staunch » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 6:51 AM UTC

Running out of disk space is probably the single biggest category of server problem that occurs.

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Post by benologist » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 6:59 AM UTC

I still have this happen, and every time I tell myself right, today I'm going to put in a warning system that'll stop this happening .... and then I clear up a ton of space and move on.

HTTP.sys logging has been a real pain in my ass, every time I deploy a new server I forget to disable it and we do so much traffic it fills the drive completely overnight.

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 7:13 AM UTC

benologist wrote: post #3

I still have this happen, and every time I tell myself right, today I'm going to put in a warning system that'll stop this happening .... and then I clear up a ton of space and move on. HTTP.sys logging has been a real pain in my ass, every time I deploy a new server I forget to disable it and we do so much traffic it fills the drive completely overnight.

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Post by jackowayed » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 7:13 AM UTC

benologist wrote: post #3

I still have this happen, and every time I tell myself right, today I'm going to put in a warning system that'll stop this happening .... and then I clear up a ton of space and move on. HTTP.sys logging has been a real pain in my ass, every time I deploy a new server I forget to disable it and we do so much traffic it fills the drive completely overnight.

Sounds like you need to automate setting up a new server

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Post by ChuckMcM » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 7:14 AM UTC

Interesting. Given the minimum size of a Colossus cluster I find the explanation Vic gives unsatisfying. That being said I'm pretty impressed with the overall product, it is the best attempt yet to unseat Facebook, and I predict it will if Facebook can't come up with a credible response quickly.

The killer feature is that its blended with Gmail, and since a lot of people keep gmail open all the time it means you get notified and you see stuff. Not as common to keep one's facebook page open.

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 7:20 AM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #6

Interesting. Given the minimum size of a Colossus cluster I find the explanation Vic gives unsatisfying. That being said I'm pretty impressed with the overall product, it is the best attempt yet to unseat Facebook, and I predict it will if Facebook can't come up with a credible response quickly. The killer feature is that its blended with Gmail, and since a lot of people keep gmail open all the time it means you get…

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Post by craigmccaskill » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 7:22 AM UTC

Some quick napkin math on numbers:

If you're to believe Eric Schmidt when he says 'millions' and put that at 3 million users (being generous), guessing that each user uploads 20 megabytes of content (again, generous) thats:

3x10^6 × 20 MB

6x10^7 MB or

60TB

Sanity check or does that not seem like a lot of resources to allocate to a project of this size?

Edit: formatting

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Post by mlinsey » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 7:34 AM UTC

ChuckMcM wrote: post #6

Interesting. Given the minimum size of a Colossus cluster I find the explanation Vic gives unsatisfying. That being said I'm pretty impressed with the overall product, it is the best attempt yet to unseat Facebook, and I predict it will if Facebook can't come up with a credible response quickly. The killer feature is that its blended with Gmail, and since a lot of people keep gmail open all the time it means you get…

since a lot of people keep gmail open ... Not as common to keep one's facebook page open.

Do you have data on this? I'd think it would be close, if not the opposite.

Edit for clarification:

In my social circles, what you said is probably true, but I know many others use FB messages more than email (any email, not just gmail). Facebook has more pageviews total, and Facebook has probably around 3X as many active users (I couldn't find numbers at the same point in time, Gmail was at around 200 million last November as per the WSJ, Facebook was at 500 million last July and 750 million last week)

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you that G+ notifications in Gmail (and on Google Search!) is hugely powerful, and will mean G+ engagement among its users will stay quite high. But when you talk about "unseating" Facebook, you have to first come to grips with just how entrenched it is, compared to social networks that rose and fell before it. It is so entrenched that Gmail integration alone will not be enough - Facebook is substantially bigger than Gmail.

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Post by carbonica » Sun, Jul 10, 2011, 7:35 AM UTC

craigmccaskill wrote: post #8

Some quick napkin math on numbers: If you're to believe Eric Schmidt when he says 'millions' and put that at 3 million users (being generous), guessing that each user uploads 20 megabytes of content (again, generous) thats: 3x10^6 × 20 MB 6x10^7 MB or 60TB Sanity check or does that not seem like a lot of resources to allocate to a project of this size? Edit: formatting

60TB? That's about a couple grand worth of space. Why would that be a lot of space to Google?