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Apple employees call for company to support Palestinians in internal letter

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Re: Apple employees call for company to support Palestinians in internal letter

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Can somebody please explain to me this modern fashion of employees attempting to strongarm CEOs to publicly voice views irrelevant to the company's mission? I've been seeing a lot of this lately and I simply don't understand it. Should CEOs also be forced to publicly state that smoking is bad for you and recycling is good?

Re: Apple employees call for company to support Palestinians in internal letter

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post #2

Can somebody please explain to me this modern fashion of employees attempting to strongarm CEOs to publicly voice views irrelevant to the company's mission? I've been seeing a lot of this lately and I simply don't understand it. Should CEOs also be forced to publicly state that smoking is bad for you and recycling is good?

Quoting from another HN member post [1] not long ago ( I remember this post so vividly )

>When I talk to my family and non-tech non-coasts non-city friends about the sort of political polarization I encounter at my high-tech Seattle job, they often think I'm messing with them, that I'm being facetious or exaggerating. Unfortunately, I'm not. It's all so tiresome. The increasing politicization of everything, and tech being at the center of it, made me realize I have no interest anymore in climbing the corporate ladder. I realize that my lack of political fervor is a liability. I wish I cared more about these things, I really do, but I don't.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27044664

Re: Apple employees call for company to support Palestinians in internal letter

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I thought they are both at war? And Apple is supposed to interfere?

It's called disinvestment and it's not a new concept. For instance in years past, activists called upon companies to disinvest from apartheid South Africa. Among those activists was a man you may have heard of, Barack Obama.

Re: Apple employees call for company to support Palestinians in internal letter

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It’s about time the continuous flow of statements from big corporations around political (supposedly consensual) issues start to backfire.

Just make your customers happy, don’t strongarm them, don’t overprice your products, and pay taxes, is all people are really asking from corporations.

Re: Apple employees call for company to support Palestinians in internal letter

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Can somebody please explain to me this modern fashion of employees attempting to strongarm CEOs to publicly voice views irrelevant to the company's mission? I've been seeing a lot of this lately and I simply don't understand it. Should CEOs also be forced to publicly state that smoking is bad for you and recycling is good?

One term I have heard for this phenomenon is a "purity spiral".

Re: Apple employees call for company to support Palestinians in internal letter

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Heh. Just wait till they get wind of XinJiang or labor conditions in Foxconn factories and see how the management responds to those concerns... oh, nevermind. We’ve known that for years but that must okay to activists since silence is violence and I haven’t heard peep.

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Heh. Just wait till they get wind of XinJiang or labor conditions in Foxconn factories and see how the management responds to those concerns... oh, nevermind. We’ve known that for years but that must okay to activists since silence is violence and I haven’t heard peep.

The response to this argument from the activists is "don't let perfect be the enemy of good", and they will carry on ignoring the stuff they want to ignore without feeling bad. (It's not true that they don't know though.)

There is some logic here and I've not found a good way to argue against it.

Re: Apple employees call for company to support Palestinians in internal letter

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Can somebody please explain to me this modern fashion of employees attempting to strongarm CEOs to publicly voice views irrelevant to the company's mission? I've been seeing a lot of this lately and I simply don't understand it. Should CEOs also be forced to publicly state that smoking is bad for you and recycling is good?

There is something special about being able to buy your food from the store and not having it be a political issue. I feel like we are slowly losing this. Commerce should really be separate from politics. Pushing politics into everything risks reducing cooperation between people and all these positive sum trades that naturally occur.
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