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Leaving Freenode for a new network

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Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

#3
It's interesting to me that the draft was censored and mentioned a buyer, while this one only talks about control. For me, it paints the situation worse.

Still sad to see FreeNode fall. This will lead to a lot of split communities and dead links.

EDIT: Fuchs finds some harsher words[0]:

> In the past few weeks, this has changed[2], and the existance of a legal threat to freenode has become apparent. We cannot know the substance of this legal threat as it contains some kind of gag order preventing its broader discussion within staff. The democratically elected heads of their respective teams, development, infrastructure, projects and communities were removed by force[3] and have been informed that they are not entitled to act in their respective capacity.

> [...] A contract in which christel, former head of staff, allegedly sold freenode, surfaced. And while I personally think that this would have neither included any servers or code or user data, since that did not belong to christel to sell, I am not a lawyer and apparently some of our volunteers got pressured very hard and their personal life could have been ruined easily should we have fought against this apparent contract.

This makes it look far more hostile than the linked note. Sad to see.

[0] https://fuchsnet.ch/freenode-resign-letter.txt

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

#5
I just got a message from the staff on freenode:

[Global Notice] Hi all. It feels like my moral responsibility to inform all users that administrative control of freenode and its user data will soon change hands, and I will be resigning from freenode staff effective immediately. It's been an honour to help you all.

Sad to see a hostile takeover of Freenode.

Its controlled by Private Internet Access now.

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

#9
If this leads to a mass exodus from Freenode, it'll probably significantly reduce overall IRC usage.

Communities will fracture, people will set up random splinter networks that will die off in a few months, and lots of open-source projects that already want to be using something Javascripty like Slack or Discord are going to use this as the motivating thing to make the switch.

Personally I'm staying put on Freenode because I don't see a lot of user-facing impact potential here, and IRC was already essentially untrusted/public (yes, even your private messages - you don't really know who is relaying them and how trustworthy they are).

Re: Leaving Freenode for a new network

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post #5

I just got a message from the staff on freenode: [Global Notice] Hi all. It feels like my moral responsibility to inform all users that administrative control of freenode and its user data will soon change hands, and I will be resigning from freenode staff effective immediately. It's been an honour to help you all. Sad to see a hostile takeover of Freenode. Its controlled by Private Internet Access now.

What’s the connection to PIA?

EDIT: Andrew Lee is founder of PIA. From Wikipedia:

> The company was founded by the American-born Andrew Lee.[6][7] London Trust Media also owns the Freenode IRC network.[8][failed verification]

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