Facebook faces ‘devastating’ EU-to-US data transfer ban
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Re: Facebook faces ‘devastating’ EU-to-US data transfer ban
#2only a mad person uses this cancer of an application
Re: Facebook faces ‘devastating’ EU-to-US data transfer ban
#3Ahh poor Facebook. I feel so bad for them. Has to be tough not being able to steal people's data.
Re: Facebook faces ‘devastating’ EU-to-US data transfer ban
#4Ahh poor Facebook. I feel so bad for them. Has to be tough not being able to steal people's data.
Now now, they don’t “steal” it, they just “collect” it. All this data falls off the back of a truck, they just pick it up.
Re: Facebook faces ‘devastating’ EU-to-US data transfer ban
#5I can’t see why it would be devastating in practice. Why can’t the servers that deduce every little thing about the users be also based in EU?
If I want a worldwide ad (is that even a thing?) for left-leaning horse owners between ages of 20-27.5 with a child and at least 2 partners, can’t that be dished out from an EU server for EU users?
Re: Facebook faces ‘devastating’ EU-to-US data transfer ban
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#7> The case stems from European Union concerns that United States government surveillance may not respect the privacy rights of EU citizens
These are valid concerns that I share as a U.S. citizen concerned about my own privacy from government surveillance. It's appropriate for other countries to share them and to take action.
But is it clear that government surveillance by EU countries is more respecting of privacy? It seems to me more like the 5/9/14 Eyes countries are cooperating on just these kinds of intrusions. It isn't clear to me that Facebook data held on European servers will be any more secure from intelligence agencies than on U.S. servers ... including from U.S. agencies.
Re: Facebook faces ‘devastating’ EU-to-US data transfer ban
#8I can’t see why it would be devastating in practice. Why can’t the servers that deduce every little thing about the users be also based in EU? If I want a worldwide ad (is that even a thing?) for left-leaning horse owners between ages of 20-27.5 with a child and at least 2 partners, can’t that be dished out from an EU server for EU users?
I, an American, have a friend in France, where is our friendship stored? I send a message to my friend in France they send me one back, where are these two messages stored? We have a photo taken while traveling together in Belgium with 2 other Americans, what server? I could see this being a problem only effectively solved by a separate EU and US Facebook.
It is not clear what data they are worried about transmission of, but each type seems to need special consideration. You mention ad-targeting data, but most data collected by Facebook useful to the surveillance agencies Ireland is worried about are more personal than that.
Re: Facebook faces ‘devastating’ EU-to-US data transfer ban
#9I can’t see why it would be devastating in practice. Why can’t the servers that deduce every little thing about the users be also based in EU? If I want a worldwide ad (is that even a thing?) for left-leaning horse owners between ages of 20-27.5 with a child and at least 2 partners, can’t that be dished out from an EU server for EU users?
I guess a US company running that ad would no longer be allowed to do purchase attribution.
More practically through, all of facebook's infrastructure is built on a transparently globally replicated database. Data siloing was only originally considered for launching facebook in China
Re: Facebook faces ‘devastating’ EU-to-US data transfer ban
#10I can’t see why it would be devastating in practice. Why can’t the servers that deduce every little thing about the users be also based in EU? If I want a worldwide ad (is that even a thing?) for left-leaning horse owners between ages of 20-27.5 with a child and at least 2 partners, can’t that be dished out from an EU server for EU users?
I, an American, have a friend in France, where is our friendship stored? I send a message to my friend in France they send me one back, where are these two messages stored? We have a photo taken while traveling together in Belgium with 2 other Americans, what server? I could see this being a problem only effectively solved by a separate EU and US Facebook. It is not clear what data they are worried about transmission…
I suspect cases like this are a tiny minority. You could handle them by falling back to the current way of doing this, ie US servers, and still protect the vast majority of data that's not related to US citizens.