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Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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Re: Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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It's amazing how much of our digestive system isn't known.

Having had a bad flu years ago, it had a life altering impact on my own system, where I now have to be very particular about what I eat, because I lost so much of that good bacteria.

This in turn has an impact on my SO, since she eats mostly what I eat. My son has a bit more diet diversity, since I worry he'll end up in a similar condition.

Re: Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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The ethics scandal of paleofeces studies:

Because feces aren't considered human remains under U.S. law, Warinner says, there was little discussion early on about the ethics of the research. But when the group reached out to several dozen tribes in the Southwest, some said the samples were a link to their ancestors and were upset they hadn't been consulted earlier. The study now includes an ethics statement, a first for a paleofeces paper.

Re: Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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It's amazing how much of our digestive system isn't known. Having had a bad flu years ago, it had a life altering impact on my own system, where I now have to be very particular about what I eat, because I lost so much of that good bacteria. This in turn has an impact on my SO, since she eats mostly what I eat. My son has a bit more diet diversity, since I worry he'll end up in a similar condition.

My SO had a similar experience -- she had a bad flu a couple years ago and ever since has had a really rough time with certain foods. She's had tests for H. Pylori and all the other usual suspects (all negative). She's tried going gluten-free and FODMAP diet and hasn't been able to identify any consistent pattern.

Re: Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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post #3

The ethics scandal of paleofeces studies: Because feces aren't considered human remains under U.S. law, Warinner says, there was little discussion early on about the ethics of the research. But when the group reached out to several dozen tribes in the Southwest, some said the samples were a link to their ancestors and were upset they hadn't been consulted earlier. The study now includes an ethics statement, a first f…

I don't understand what the scandal is?

Re: Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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It's amazing how much of our digestive system isn't known. Having had a bad flu years ago, it had a life altering impact on my own system, where I now have to be very particular about what I eat, because I lost so much of that good bacteria. This in turn has an impact on my SO, since she eats mostly what I eat. My son has a bit more diet diversity, since I worry he'll end up in a similar condition.

My SO had a similar experience -- she had a bad flu a couple years ago and ever since has had a really rough time with certain foods. She's had tests for H. Pylori and all the other usual suspects (all negative). She's tried going gluten-free and FODMAP diet and hasn't been able to identify any consistent pattern.

Maybe try meat-only? Some people seem to have benefited from that.

Re: Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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It's amazing how much of our digestive system isn't known. Having had a bad flu years ago, it had a life altering impact on my own system, where I now have to be very particular about what I eat, because I lost so much of that good bacteria. This in turn has an impact on my SO, since she eats mostly what I eat. My son has a bit more diet diversity, since I worry he'll end up in a similar condition.

My SO had a similar experience -- she had a bad flu a couple years ago and ever since has had a really rough time with certain foods. She's had tests for H. Pylori and all the other usual suspects (all negative). She's tried going gluten-free and FODMAP diet and hasn't been able to identify any consistent pattern.

A friend in similar circumstances had a lot of improvement from a poop transplant, might be worth a try.

Re: Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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It's amazing how much of our digestive system isn't known. Having had a bad flu years ago, it had a life altering impact on my own system, where I now have to be very particular about what I eat, because I lost so much of that good bacteria. This in turn has an impact on my SO, since she eats mostly what I eat. My son has a bit more diet diversity, since I worry he'll end up in a similar condition.

My SO had a similar experience -- she had a bad flu a couple years ago and ever since has had a really rough time with certain foods. She's had tests for H. Pylori and all the other usual suspects (all negative). She's tried going gluten-free and FODMAP diet and hasn't been able to identify any consistent pattern.

I recommend trying cabbage juice, my fathers credits it as nearly curing his ulcers (unfortunately I don't know if his are caused by H. Pylori).

Re: Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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It's amazing how much of our digestive system isn't known. Having had a bad flu years ago, it had a life altering impact on my own system, where I now have to be very particular about what I eat, because I lost so much of that good bacteria. This in turn has an impact on my SO, since she eats mostly what I eat. My son has a bit more diet diversity, since I worry he'll end up in a similar condition.

My SO had a similar experience -- she had a bad flu a couple years ago and ever since has had a really rough time with certain foods. She's had tests for H. Pylori and all the other usual suspects (all negative). She's tried going gluten-free and FODMAP diet and hasn't been able to identify any consistent pattern.

I wish her a lot of luck. It took me years to get things bearable. And there's a long way to go.

There's others, but garlic and onion are two of my triggers, and it's amazing how much food uses one or both.

I've also found that there's a sort of buildup effect with me. If I have certain foods two days in a row, or more than x times a week it can cause issues.

All that means it's quite hard to pin it down.

Re: Ancient poop reveals ‘extinction event’ in human gut bacteria

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post #3

The ethics scandal of paleofeces studies: Because feces aren't considered human remains under U.S. law, Warinner says, there was little discussion early on about the ethics of the research. But when the group reached out to several dozen tribes in the Southwest, some said the samples were a link to their ancestors and were upset they hadn't been consulted earlier. The study now includes an ethics statement, a first f…

I don't understand what the scandal is?

I guess that the poop was owned in a sense
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