Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
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Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
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Re: Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
#2I've never been too bothered, as a user, when one product "borrows" a great feature from another, especially if they manage to deliver a better experience.
I've had high hopes for Diaspora. Gave them cash when they were on Kickstarter. Tried hosting my own Diaspora server. Waited for the devs and the community to do something with the $200,000 they raised.
Certainly a lot of hackers have done much more with much less.
In the year since Diaspora was announced, though, not much has happened.
Ask anyone in the general public if they've used Diaspora, and you're more likely to get a confused "what's Diaspora?"
At the end of the day, there's really only one measuring stick for a social service: users. We use social sites to communicate with our friends and followers. Facebook is deeply flawed, but people have stayed there because people were staying there.
G+ looks like the first real opportunity for people to leave Facebook without losing the connections they've become addicted to. If G+ is going to be the new default for sharing online, I really just want three things.
1. Let me control my data and my privacy.
2. Play nice with other sites, protocols, and standards.
3. Provide a great user experience, including "borrowing" from other places when it makes sense.
Re: Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
#3I've never been too bothered, as a user, when one product "borrows" a great feature from another, especially if they manage to deliver a better experience. I've had high hopes for Diaspora. Gave them cash when they were on Kickstarter. Tried hosting my own Diaspora server. Waited for the devs and the community to do something with the $200,000 they raised. Certainly a lot of hackers have done much more with much less…
"Who" came up with the idea is not important, it's the "Who" who made the idea useful for others, is what matters.
Re: Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
#4Geez - Huddle was "inspired" by Padpaw, but I'm not bitter, much.
Lot's of ideas get tried out, some times they stick. Other times they take 2 or 3 starts/failures before they stick
Re: Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
#5I think giving users the ability to build a social identity in G+ now, and then export to wherever, could wind up being a big help to Diaspora in the long run.
How complete is the export is exactly?
Re: Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
#6I've never been too bothered, as a user, when one product "borrows" a great feature from another, especially if they manage to deliver a better experience. I've had high hopes for Diaspora. Gave them cash when they were on Kickstarter. Tried hosting my own Diaspora server. Waited for the devs and the community to do something with the $200,000 they raised. Certainly a lot of hackers have done much more with much less…
Why is facebook "deeply flawed"?
@1. you can do that on Facebook, too ... they even have "circles" there, too
@2. facebook is the champion of playing nice with other sites, just look around you ... everything is facebook nowadays
@3. facebook borrowed a lot and you can filter everything everywhere.
So maybe their UI isn't as clean as Google+ and they lack a great video chat, but other than that, why should anyone switch to yet another social network which does the same ... once was enough for many people, now that everyone and their dog is on the leading network there is no incentive to switch away.
Google+ is coming to late to a party that started years ago and will suffer the same fate as other Google products: only geeks will use them, no matter how good they are (Wave :/) ...
Re: Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
#7I've never been too bothered, as a user, when one product "borrows" a great feature from another, especially if they manage to deliver a better experience. I've had high hopes for Diaspora. Gave them cash when they were on Kickstarter. Tried hosting my own Diaspora server. Waited for the devs and the community to do something with the $200,000 they raised. Certainly a lot of hackers have done much more with much less…
Why is facebook "deeply flawed"? @1. you can do that on Facebook, too ... they even have "circles" there, too @2. facebook is the champion of playing nice with other sites, just look around you ... everything is facebook nowadays @3. facebook borrowed a lot and you can filter everything everywhere. So maybe their UI isn't as clean as Google+ and they lack a great video chat, but other than that, why should anyone swi…
I completly agree. Also, I think it would be really fun that Facebook implement video chat using Google's open technologies and make it compatible, just to say "meh" to Google.
Re: Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
#8I assumed the concept had come from Google's own research, which I first saw a year ago in this slide deck: http://www.slideshare.net/padday/the-real-life-social-networ...
According to Wikipedia, Diaspora was initially funded in April 2010 and a developer preview was released in September 2010. The Google slide deck was published in July 2010, so presumably this is an idea they had been kicking around for a while before then.
It seems that the notion of friend (circles|aspects) is just one of those obvious ideas that everybody had, but nobody executed properly until now.
Re: Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
#9I've never been too bothered, as a user, when one product "borrows" a great feature from another, especially if they manage to deliver a better experience. I've had high hopes for Diaspora. Gave them cash when they were on Kickstarter. Tried hosting my own Diaspora server. Waited for the devs and the community to do something with the $200,000 they raised. Certainly a lot of hackers have done much more with much less…
Why is facebook "deeply flawed"? @1. you can do that on Facebook, too ... they even have "circles" there, too @2. facebook is the champion of playing nice with other sites, just look around you ... everything is facebook nowadays @3. facebook borrowed a lot and you can filter everything everywhere. So maybe their UI isn't as clean as Google+ and they lack a great video chat, but other than that, why should anyone swi…
Facebook plays nice with other sites? Have you seen the dozens of news about Facebook developers having their app banned for no reason and with no explanation? What about user accounts being terminated with also no explanation and for no reason (this happened to my account once, and Facebook takes weeks before answering you!)
Facebook is a nightmare, it's built around the concept of spam but since all your friends are on it, you have to be on it. Every app tries to force you to click on things you don't want, so that they will end up in your news feed and attract more sheep. Every few months, they add a new concept that raises tons of questions about privacy and yet their default settings is almost always to allow every user into the new thing (think auto-tagging via facial recognition). The best part of all? They don't even tell you there's a new feature and that YOUR PERSONAL privacy settings have been set to "allow all" for that new feature.
I have been waiting for something like G+ to kick facebook in the face for so long, now I only need an invite!
Re: Google+ "inspired" by diaspora?
#10Diaspora was going down the toilet anyways.. why not recycle some of their ideas?