Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016)
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Re: Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016)
#2Probably needs a (2016) label.
Re: Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016)
#3I often reflect on the similiarities to that and how techno and house became EDM.
When I started going to Midwestern raves in the 1990s they were literally some of the first fully integrated places I hung out in. Definitely some of the Detroit techno parties we went too, some of the first places where it was a majority Black space.
EDM now is thought of as this totally white music, all electronic music really, by everyone. Oh some rappers might flirt with some electronic beats, but the whole genre has just been whitewashed basically.
But for some of those years in the 1990s it really felt like we were living in the future. Hopped up on smart drinks (and LSD), gay and straight, black and white, talking about this new thing called the internet and dancing all night together.
We were it - the New Humans…
Re: Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016)
#4Lotta early-rock-history-for-newbs in there, I'll give it that. Dylan's insights - race, payola, manipulation - were already gospel long ago, for example in 1984 in Patrick Montgomery's Rock and Roll: The Early Days (1984). [0] (Despite the resolution) Enjoy! (About the garage-band thing supposedly happening? Not on the radio!)
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL2K-KrtBNs
Edit: while I'm on it, if you'd like expert rock history, Alan Cross is your man. Check into all those 900+ 'Ongoing History of New Music' casts, about 25m each. The man's accurate and thorough.
Re: Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016)
#5I often reflect on the similiarities to that and how techno and house became EDM. When I started going to Midwestern raves in the 1990s they were literally some of the first fully integrated places I hung out in. Definitely some of the Detroit techno parties we went too, some of the first places where it was a majority Black space. EDM now is thought of as this totally white music, all electronic music really, by eve…
I was in the 90s Midwest rave scene as well.
This pattern repeats itself in music over and over. Jungle to DNB. Dubstep was like two tone, then it got destroyed by the US market takeover.
Garage, grime, dancehall, hip hop all stay mainly black (with some white artists accepted) to defend their scene. Precisely to stop the take over from happening again.
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#7I often reflect on the similiarities to that and how techno and house became EDM. When I started going to Midwestern raves in the 1990s they were literally some of the first fully integrated places I hung out in. Definitely some of the Detroit techno parties we went too, some of the first places where it was a majority Black space. EDM now is thought of as this totally white music, all electronic music really, by eve…
I was in the 90s Midwest rave scene as well. This pattern repeats itself in music over and over. Jungle to DNB. Dubstep was like two tone, then it got destroyed by the US market takeover. Garage, grime, dancehall, hip hop all stay mainly black (with some white artists accepted) to defend their scene. Precisely to stop the take over from happening again.
This leftist style of racist crap is normal and accepted on HN now, isn't it?
Re: Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016)
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was in the 90s Midwest rave scene as well. This pattern repeats itself in music over and over. Jungle to DNB. Dubstep was like two tone, then it got destroyed by the US market takeover. Garage, grime, dancehall, hip hop all stay mainly black (with some white artists accepted) to defend their scene. Precisely to stop the take over from happening again.
This leftist style of racist crap is normal and accepted on HN now, isn't it?
This is just name calling and doesn't address any of the points, which are all valid - for anyone who pays attention to music.
Re: Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016)
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
This leftist style of racist crap is normal and accepted on HN now, isn't it?
This is just name calling and doesn't address any of the points, which are all valid - for anyone who pays attention to music.
It's not just name-calling, it's accurately naming somebody's fallacy. The actual process that goes on with music and all other phenomena is that they change and eventually "die" in that nobody cares about them anymore. It happens with everything, and there is no villain.
Re: Bob Dylan lays down what killed rock n roll (2016)
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
This leftist style of racist crap is normal and accepted on HN now, isn't it?
This is just name calling and doesn't address any of the points, which are all valid - for anyone who pays attention to music.
Don't feed the troll, just downvote and move on.